I posting this the writers forum but no real responses, but how you go about a timeline where Oda Nobubnaga dies in a disastrous battle of Okehazama. The man who gave the support base to the other 2 unifiers is dead, Hideyoshi's just a sandal barer, and Ieyasu is an Imagawa vassal. Japan as we know it is practically butterflied away.
At the most I could see Imagawa Yoshimoto taking Owari, but i'm stuck at where would he go from there and what would happen in the rest of Japan. In regards to Kyushu and Shikoku I could see the Shimazu and Chosokabe doing as well as they there did and maybe more in case of the Shimazu, since no Hideyoshi to intervene in their attack against the Otomo. While the Chosokobe might have to deal with a longer lasting Miyoshi,and Western Honshu could be united by the Mori.
My biggest concern is what would happen in Central and Western Honshu. The Miyoshi would still be a significant force in the west, the Ikko Ikki would still be around.I'm skepical of Takeda Shingen unifying japan or becoming shogun, since the Imagawa are in a marriage alliance with the Hojo and Takeda, I doubt they would fight each other soon, and not having the Imagawa get absorbed into the Takeda would leave the Takeda weaker. If Takeda Yoshinobu still decides to rebel against Shingen would Yoshimoto decide to support his brother in law Shingen or his son in law Yoshinobu.
The initial premise of just Yoshimoto not dying early means the Tokugawa are still vassals and the Imagawa won't be picked apart, but the butterfly's seem too huge to guess what would happen. If I tried making this into a time line would I be advised to go somewhat OTL for events that might be radically effected by the POD, and then use whatever may be plausible for the major changes.
At the most I could see Imagawa Yoshimoto taking Owari, but i'm stuck at where would he go from there and what would happen in the rest of Japan. In regards to Kyushu and Shikoku I could see the Shimazu and Chosokabe doing as well as they there did and maybe more in case of the Shimazu, since no Hideyoshi to intervene in their attack against the Otomo. While the Chosokobe might have to deal with a longer lasting Miyoshi,and Western Honshu could be united by the Mori.
My biggest concern is what would happen in Central and Western Honshu. The Miyoshi would still be a significant force in the west, the Ikko Ikki would still be around.I'm skepical of Takeda Shingen unifying japan or becoming shogun, since the Imagawa are in a marriage alliance with the Hojo and Takeda, I doubt they would fight each other soon, and not having the Imagawa get absorbed into the Takeda would leave the Takeda weaker. If Takeda Yoshinobu still decides to rebel against Shingen would Yoshimoto decide to support his brother in law Shingen or his son in law Yoshinobu.
The initial premise of just Yoshimoto not dying early means the Tokugawa are still vassals and the Imagawa won't be picked apart, but the butterfly's seem too huge to guess what would happen. If I tried making this into a time line would I be advised to go somewhat OTL for events that might be radically effected by the POD, and then use whatever may be plausible for the major changes.