I agree. I don’t consider any of the non pop culture stuff to be canon since all the changes that would be made are more from a case of making the world better and the butterflies would be too great to really account for pop culture to be anything close to what we know. An Actual Presidents list would probably diverge around the 1968 Election as Pop Culture did impact the election due to the Nixon's guest appearance on Laugh in catapulting him to winning the Presidency. No Laugh in. No Nixon. After that it follows That Wacky Redhead's list of Presidents(Humphrey, 1 term Ronald Reagan and then John Glenn).
Trying to Please Everyone: Or Converting multiple Pop Culture Utopias into a Timeline.
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Well if I had to pick a few. I would say that Spain joined the Axis and so was overthrown with D-Day occurring in Spain instead. Spain Germany and Italy invaded France. As a result they are not seen as cowardly for surrendering but instead viewed as fighting against overwhelming odds. Other than that World War II follows the same story beats more or less.
I'm honestly not sure what to do with the CW shows since they have their fans but killing Riverdale might be one of the things I do, or at least make it better without all the icky romance stuff and other things.
Well, I apologize for overwhelming you with too many non-pop culture questions. I shall try to ask more pop culture ones.
Here's three questions Id love to know the answers to: What's happened to Super Sentai and Power rangers?. And what about cancelled Netflix shows like designated survivor or Santa Clarita Diet. And Finally what's happened to the resident evil franchise, did the bad movies get made?
Super Sentai and Power Rangers still exist. A list of changes coming. Designated Survivor and Santa Clarita Diet continue a bit longer. The Resident Evil Franchise also still exists though the movies are much better and largely follow the plot of each Video Game.
Cant wait to see the changes. Loving this so far.
Super Mario: 3D Era(1996-2020)
Super Mario 64-1996
Super Mario 64 consists entirely of linear levels(akin to the Bowser levels and Sunshine, Mario Galaxy, 3D Land and 3D World OTL). There are 32 worlds. The game also features Luigi as a playable second character, making the game multiplayer. Yoshi also appears more in the game than OTL.
The game received a remake for the DS titled Super Mario 64x4, which added Yoshi and Wario and made the game 4 player, allowing all 4 to fight bowser at the same time as well as telling the story with the two added characters.
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars-1996
The localized name for Punchinello is James Bomb. As originally planned OTL.
Super Mario Kart R-1996
The original title for Mario Kart 64. The game features an additional ninth character in Kamek.
Yoshi 3D-1996
Developed by Argonaut and pitched to Nintendo. Notably released on every 3D graphic console except for the Playstation.
Mario's Castle-1996
Released for the next Game Boy, Mario's Castle takes several rejected elements for what became Luigi's Mansion and recycled them for Gameboy, such as Mario being the protagonist and a more Japanese style traditional haunted castle rather than the Haunted House in the original game.
Mario Tennis-2000
Waluigi and Wapeach are introduced in the game.
Super Mario RPG 2: The Story of the Star Rod-2000
This is TTL's Paper Mario, which was able to happen thanks to an avoidance of copyright conflicts with Squaresoft. The game therefore includes more characters from the original Super Mario RPG in cameos such as Geno and Mallow and the mention by Eldstar the star rod has been broken for the second time.
Mario Kick-off Football-2000
Retro Studios reworked Retro NFL Football into a Licensed Mario game.
Luigi's Mansion-2001
The Game includes Mario as a second player. The Pltergust 3000 has a heat meter if used for too long, making it explode.
Super Mario All Stars Advance-2001
Rather than being a remake of Super Mario Bros 2, the game is a collection of Allstars and Yoshi's Island for the gameboy advance
Super Mario Sunshine-2002
The game features travel to level via the train and Sol Coins. Level included are "Hotel Lacrime","Battleship Island", "Erto Rock", "Lighthouse Island", and "Flame Temple". Mario also has the ability to paint in addition to washing away paint(Predating Splatoon). To this end FLUDD has been turned into a water pistol. Isle Delfino has more human NPCs, ebign bigger with alleyways, blue Piantas and a Giant onion boss called "Stu". Stu has a third eye on top of its "head", which causes it to explode when hit with water enough, and a skull-looking mask with horns on it.
The Hud is quite different, having a Sun icon showing the amount of water left in FLUDD and a coin counter. Other inclusions are ships in Rico harbor, police guarding a blue coin, enemies in Delfino Plaza, Giant Petey Piranha heads in Pianta Hills, a different design for the Boos and Blooper Blooper, who is dark blue. Yoshi is also green but changes colors after eating fruit, though Yoshi doesn't die when he ran out of food or touching water. There is also the existence of a book used to reach a star in Gelato Beach.
Nintendo and Sega finally released a Mario & Sonic Crossover. The Game featured members of the Sonic cast being transported to the Mushroom Kingdom when the Chaos Emeralds were transported there during Robotnik's effort to obtain them. The game becomes an easter egg hunt to search for the Chaos Emeralds. This places a majority of the game in the Mushroom Kingdom with the antagonists being Bowser and Robotnik, though characters from both franchises make appearances as either cameos, playable characters or antagonists. The gameplay changes between worlds depending on their origin. There is even a level in which the character design changes to reflect a retro fell. The characters then part ways and return to their own universes.
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-2003
Kicking off the largely the same as OTL series.
Super Mario RPG 3: The Tale of the Thousand-Year Door-2004
The Smorgs have a different design(in addition to not being paper). They resemble a ghostly waddling head
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games-2007
Another game would bring the characters together again, but not in an epic story, except rather Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games which brought the characters into several sports themed competitions, which opened the door for the later Video Game Olympics series that served as an even bigger cross over franchise. The first installment featured 12 characters for each team.
The Winter Olympics Game kept the same roster with the sports being different.
Super Mario Galaxy-2007
The game includes the powerups that OTL were saved for the sequel. The game also had a Gamecube port. Mahito Yokota composed 28 musical pieces for the game which had Latin Beats. This is in addition to the sweeping orchestral songs already present.
Mario Spikers-2007
Next Level Games had developed the Mario Strikers series. Spikers was a followup for the Wii. Originally named Mario Volleyball. The Violence was a bit more realistic than most other games including Strikers and Super Smash Bros.
Hyper Mario Bros-2007
OTL's Super Paper Mario. Transformed into its own game, avoiding the OTL backlash over it being more platformer than RPG.
Super Mario Galaxy 2-2010
The Sequel expands on Rosalina's backstory, revealing she is related to Peach. Specifically she is essentially the daughter of her and Mario from a previous now destroyed Universe.
Mario Football-2010
A Mario Football game created by Retro Studios.
Super Mario 3D Land-2011
Goomba shoes are included as a powerup. There is also a cockroach like enemy that can be squashed by folding the 3Ds.
Archie Comics Mario-2011
comic publisher Archie Comics pitched a Mario comic adaptation to Nintendo, written by Ian Flynn and featuring art by Tracy Yardley and Ben Bates. The series began with a 4 issue mini series and then continued after it saw success.
The plot began with Mario & Luigi going to Peach's Castle for a plumbing job. Mario is bored of the job while Luigi is excited to have such a high contract. While they are there, Bowser attacks the Mushroom Kingdom. Mario vows to save the Princess while Luigi reluctantly does so. They stock up on power ups and travel through worlds 1 through 8, quickly going through their power ups.
Luigi quits as they reach Bowser's Castle, because he sees it as suicide. They are plumbers. Not heroes. Mario goes in alone, going through traps and firebars to confront Bowser, who is disappointed by seeing Mario personally after all the trouble he's caused, but decides to kill him regardless. The two fight on a bridge over a magma moat with Mario avoid Bowser's hits but Mario being unable to hurt bowser. Luigi overcomes his fear and runs screaming inside, slamming into a wall and knocking a giant axe hanging on the wall, which falls and cuts the bridge. Mario bounces off Bowser as he falls and reaches safety. The brothers reunite and save the Princess together, Mario and Peach sharing a love at first sight moment. The three return to the Mushroom Kingdom and rebuild, with Mario & Luigi now being royal plumbers. Luigi is happy to just remain in his comfortable new position and no longer go on any new adventures. A stinger reveals Bowser's hand emerging from the Magma.
Later issues focused on the more whimsical tone and moved away from the Drama. The series, like Archie's Sonic and Megaman series, combined elements from across the Franchise, including the games, TV Shows and even the movies.
Mario Tennis Open-2012
Rosalina is playable(instead of Luma).
Super Mario RPG: Sticker Star-2012
Close in design to the first two games and including a Chain Chomp partner, a Crowned Monty Mole Boss and a card level. Miyamoto direction was not misinterpreted as OTL.
Super Mario Maker-2015
largely same OTL Super Mario Maker, though with the obvious inclusion of TTL's power ups and enemies.
Super Mario Odyssey-2017
The Game has different outfits for Mario. New Donk City is themed after the original Retro Mario games rather than the Donkey Kong series as the connection to Donkey Kong does not exist. Rosalina also appears wearing casual clothes and playing an acoustic guitar. Bowser also employs his own Capture hat to possess Princess Peach, turning her into a hostage(this leads to the Bowsette phenomenon appearing much earlier than OTL and being visually different in appearance).
Super Mario RPG: The Origami King-2020
Toad NPCs from Color Splash appear in the game. This includes Card Connoisseur Toad and Rescue Squad Chief. Enemies includes consist of Parabones, Bony Beetles, Bob-ombs, Sombrero Guys, Dino Rhinos, Amazing Flyin' and Hammer Brothers. Mario is able to walk in the Overworld as Fire and Raccoon Mario.
Super Mario 64 consists entirely of linear levels(akin to the Bowser levels and Sunshine, Mario Galaxy, 3D Land and 3D World OTL). There are 32 worlds. The game also features Luigi as a playable second character, making the game multiplayer. Yoshi also appears more in the game than OTL.
The game received a remake for the DS titled Super Mario 64x4, which added Yoshi and Wario and made the game 4 player, allowing all 4 to fight bowser at the same time as well as telling the story with the two added characters.
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars-1996
The localized name for Punchinello is James Bomb. As originally planned OTL.
Super Mario Kart R-1996
The original title for Mario Kart 64. The game features an additional ninth character in Kamek.
Yoshi 3D-1996
Developed by Argonaut and pitched to Nintendo. Notably released on every 3D graphic console except for the Playstation.
Mario's Castle-1996
Released for the next Game Boy, Mario's Castle takes several rejected elements for what became Luigi's Mansion and recycled them for Gameboy, such as Mario being the protagonist and a more Japanese style traditional haunted castle rather than the Haunted House in the original game.
Mario Tennis-2000
Waluigi and Wapeach are introduced in the game.
Super Mario RPG 2: The Story of the Star Rod-2000
This is TTL's Paper Mario, which was able to happen thanks to an avoidance of copyright conflicts with Squaresoft. The game therefore includes more characters from the original Super Mario RPG in cameos such as Geno and Mallow and the mention by Eldstar the star rod has been broken for the second time.
Mario Kick-off Football-2000
Retro Studios reworked Retro NFL Football into a Licensed Mario game.
Luigi's Mansion-2001
The Game includes Mario as a second player. The Pltergust 3000 has a heat meter if used for too long, making it explode.
Super Mario All Stars Advance-2001
Rather than being a remake of Super Mario Bros 2, the game is a collection of Allstars and Yoshi's Island for the gameboy advance
Super Mario Sunshine-2002
The game features travel to level via the train and Sol Coins. Level included are "Hotel Lacrime","Battleship Island", "Erto Rock", "Lighthouse Island", and "Flame Temple". Mario also has the ability to paint in addition to washing away paint(Predating Splatoon). To this end FLUDD has been turned into a water pistol. Isle Delfino has more human NPCs, ebign bigger with alleyways, blue Piantas and a Giant onion boss called "Stu". Stu has a third eye on top of its "head", which causes it to explode when hit with water enough, and a skull-looking mask with horns on it.
The Hud is quite different, having a Sun icon showing the amount of water left in FLUDD and a coin counter. Other inclusions are ships in Rico harbor, police guarding a blue coin, enemies in Delfino Plaza, Giant Petey Piranha heads in Pianta Hills, a different design for the Boos and Blooper Blooper, who is dark blue. Yoshi is also green but changes colors after eating fruit, though Yoshi doesn't die when he ran out of food or touching water. There is also the existence of a book used to reach a star in Gelato Beach.
Nintendo and Sega finally released a Mario & Sonic Crossover. The Game featured members of the Sonic cast being transported to the Mushroom Kingdom when the Chaos Emeralds were transported there during Robotnik's effort to obtain them. The game becomes an easter egg hunt to search for the Chaos Emeralds. This places a majority of the game in the Mushroom Kingdom with the antagonists being Bowser and Robotnik, though characters from both franchises make appearances as either cameos, playable characters or antagonists. The gameplay changes between worlds depending on their origin. There is even a level in which the character design changes to reflect a retro fell. The characters then part ways and return to their own universes.
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-2003
Kicking off the largely the same as OTL series.
Super Mario RPG 3: The Tale of the Thousand-Year Door-2004
The Smorgs have a different design(in addition to not being paper). They resemble a ghostly waddling head
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games-2007
Another game would bring the characters together again, but not in an epic story, except rather Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games which brought the characters into several sports themed competitions, which opened the door for the later Video Game Olympics series that served as an even bigger cross over franchise. The first installment featured 12 characters for each team.
Team Mario:
Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Waluigi, Yoshi, Princess Daisy, Wario, Bowser, Goomba, Koopa, Birdo, Donkey Kong
Team Sonic:
Sonic the Hedgehog, Shadow the Hedgehog, Miles "Tails" Prower, Dr. Eggman, Amy Rose, Silver the Hedgehog, Nails the Bat, Knuckles the Echidna, Vector the Crocodile, Metal Sonic, Big the Cat, Jet the Hawk
The Winter Olympics Game kept the same roster with the sports being different.
Super Mario Galaxy-2007
The game includes the powerups that OTL were saved for the sequel. The game also had a Gamecube port. Mahito Yokota composed 28 musical pieces for the game which had Latin Beats. This is in addition to the sweeping orchestral songs already present.
Mario Spikers-2007
Next Level Games had developed the Mario Strikers series. Spikers was a followup for the Wii. Originally named Mario Volleyball. The Violence was a bit more realistic than most other games including Strikers and Super Smash Bros.
Hyper Mario Bros-2007
OTL's Super Paper Mario. Transformed into its own game, avoiding the OTL backlash over it being more platformer than RPG.
Super Mario Galaxy 2-2010
The Sequel expands on Rosalina's backstory, revealing she is related to Peach. Specifically she is essentially the daughter of her and Mario from a previous now destroyed Universe.
Mario Football-2010
A Mario Football game created by Retro Studios.
Super Mario 3D Land-2011
Goomba shoes are included as a powerup. There is also a cockroach like enemy that can be squashed by folding the 3Ds.
Archie Comics Mario-2011
comic publisher Archie Comics pitched a Mario comic adaptation to Nintendo, written by Ian Flynn and featuring art by Tracy Yardley and Ben Bates. The series began with a 4 issue mini series and then continued after it saw success.
The plot began with Mario & Luigi going to Peach's Castle for a plumbing job. Mario is bored of the job while Luigi is excited to have such a high contract. While they are there, Bowser attacks the Mushroom Kingdom. Mario vows to save the Princess while Luigi reluctantly does so. They stock up on power ups and travel through worlds 1 through 8, quickly going through their power ups.
Luigi quits as they reach Bowser's Castle, because he sees it as suicide. They are plumbers. Not heroes. Mario goes in alone, going through traps and firebars to confront Bowser, who is disappointed by seeing Mario personally after all the trouble he's caused, but decides to kill him regardless. The two fight on a bridge over a magma moat with Mario avoid Bowser's hits but Mario being unable to hurt bowser. Luigi overcomes his fear and runs screaming inside, slamming into a wall and knocking a giant axe hanging on the wall, which falls and cuts the bridge. Mario bounces off Bowser as he falls and reaches safety. The brothers reunite and save the Princess together, Mario and Peach sharing a love at first sight moment. The three return to the Mushroom Kingdom and rebuild, with Mario & Luigi now being royal plumbers. Luigi is happy to just remain in his comfortable new position and no longer go on any new adventures. A stinger reveals Bowser's hand emerging from the Magma.
Later issues focused on the more whimsical tone and moved away from the Drama. The series, like Archie's Sonic and Megaman series, combined elements from across the Franchise, including the games, TV Shows and even the movies.
Mario Tennis Open-2012
Rosalina is playable(instead of Luma).
Super Mario RPG: Sticker Star-2012
Close in design to the first two games and including a Chain Chomp partner, a Crowned Monty Mole Boss and a card level. Miyamoto direction was not misinterpreted as OTL.
Super Mario Maker-2015
largely same OTL Super Mario Maker, though with the obvious inclusion of TTL's power ups and enemies.
Super Mario Odyssey-2017
The Game has different outfits for Mario. New Donk City is themed after the original Retro Mario games rather than the Donkey Kong series as the connection to Donkey Kong does not exist. Rosalina also appears wearing casual clothes and playing an acoustic guitar. Bowser also employs his own Capture hat to possess Princess Peach, turning her into a hostage(this leads to the Bowsette phenomenon appearing much earlier than OTL and being visually different in appearance).
Super Mario RPG: The Origami King-2020
Toad NPCs from Color Splash appear in the game. This includes Card Connoisseur Toad and Rescue Squad Chief. Enemies includes consist of Parabones, Bony Beetles, Bob-ombs, Sombrero Guys, Dino Rhinos, Amazing Flyin' and Hammer Brothers. Mario is able to walk in the Overworld as Fire and Raccoon Mario.
Ah, I see. Any ideas for the Legend of Zelda, Pokemon, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, Mega Man, Pac-Man, and Rayman games?
Will there be any plans for Minecraft? Will Notch be saved from his ongoing downward spiral?
Both yes. Though I intend to take a break from Video Games for a bit.
History of the DC Universe(The Bronze Age): 1970-1984
History of the DC Universe: The Bronze Age
Following the science-fiction tone of the Silver Age, there was a shift to darker elements previously somewhat restrained by the Comics Code Authority. After Marvel released "The Green Goblin Reborn!" story, tackling drugs, DC chose to fire back. The result was the story "Snowbird's Don't Fly." by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. The story concerned Green Arrow discovering his teenage sidekick Speedy had become a Heroin addict and vowing to help him.
Portrait of Jenette Khan
Behind the scenes, Infantino stepped down as editorial director and was replaced by Jenette Kahn, a former children's magazine publisher. The first thing she attempted to do was convince Bill Sarnoff, to keep DC owned by Warner Publishing. She failed to do this, meaning that DC would struggle behind Marvel(and averting the DC Explosion of books overflooding the market and subsequent implosion as many creators were fired when the strategy failed). Instead DC went back to its strategy of promising more freedom over created characters. The timing was perfect as Marvel's editor in Chief, Jim Shooter alienated several of Marvel's staff and many jumped ship to DC, including Roy Thomas, Gene Colan, Marv Wolfman, and George Perez.
After World War II, Wonder Woman had been given more focus and attention on world-building(avoiding the depowering she received OTL). Her stories in the last breaths of the Marston era had moved towards a Space setting. That was where Wonder Woman lived After Marston. Science Fiction had gotten popular again and many of the stories became Wonder Woman in Space, which allowed her to survive the 50's. Into the 1960's Donna Troy had been introduced into the books and basically treated as an adopted daughter by Diana and her husband Steve Trevor. Then, Diana Trevor made her triumphant and permanent return to Earth, yet things were different. Steve Trevor was lost in space for some time. When he returned, he had visibly aged due to the travel through space being longer for him than Diana. There was a reason for this transformation and it soon became clear. Diana and Steve soon began to work for the government. A femme fatale and an older gentleman naturally called to mind the British TV series The Avengers that was popular at the time. it was blatant DC was attempting to capitalize on the show's popularity, though eventually Trevor was restored to a younger age by Aphrodite to hold off his rapid aging. Still things were different enough with the introduction of Diana and Steve's daughter Stephanie Trevor. Stephanie was introduced as a baby. Towards the end of that era, Diana was giving birth and Steve had crashed while piloting a plane during the then current(this being in 1973)Vietnam War. Donna Troy found him and flew him to see his newborn daughter. Steve Trevor saw his daughter and said goodbye before passing away.
The Death of Steve Trevor, 1973
The change to Wonder Woman's status quo was not the only effort for DC to capitalize on the Spy fad of the era. DC realized it still had the rights to create James Bond Comics ever since they made an adaptation of Dr.No in 1962. Their adaptation of that film had gained no attention yet they thought they should do something while they had the rights. DC questioned if the series would continue with Sean Connery's departure from the role, but these fears were alleviated when it was revealed the next Bond film would embrace the Space fad. Jack Kirby was offered the job on the Bond Comics to write the adaptation of Moonraker due to his artistic depiction of space as a vibrant colorful world rather than blackness with white dots. and accepted. Kirby had recently left Marvel for DC. Kirby's art and writing lifted the book as without a solid movie to go on at the time he was allowed to be original with his stories. Kirby was a machine, able to crank out multiple books quickly and efficiently without sacrificing quality. DC in exchange allowed him to continue his New Gods Story, which was intended as the distant finale of Kirby and Stan Lee's Thor series, something later folded back into the series proper. The New Gods series concluded in 1977 with an intense battle in which the antagonist and protagonist Darkseid and his son Orion killed each other, fulfilling an ancient prophecy in the series. Kirby would return to do spy stories with a comic adaptation of the Prisoner, which he enjoyed because his own world view was much like the fate of the titular character, feeling trapped in life itself, unable to escape.
Inked Page for The Prisoner by Jack Kirby
In 1977, Black Lightning premiered as DC's first Black Superhero with his own series(DC's first Black Superhero being Ferro Lad). His first issue nemesis was the rejected concept which he had replaced, a Skinhead Mad Bomber[1]. Another Black Superhero, Vixen, got her own series soon after, with Teen Titan member Harlequin having back-up stories in the Vixen series in 1978. DC, out of their high from gaining the resulting public attention from making history, attempted to copyright the term Superhero, along with their rival Marvel Comics, claiming that when people though of Superheroes they thought of the two companies, though they failed in this venture.
Rerelease of the World of New Krypton series, art is a repainting of the original Cover by Gary Frank
As the miniseries was becoming popular on television, the miniseries format was also becoming more popular in Comics, giving birth to the rise of the comic book limited series and allowing publishers to release more self contained stories. Finite storylines became more popular over serialized ones. The first of these was the Superman storyline World of New Krypton in 1979, in which the city of Kandor, a Kryptonian city shrunken by the Supervillain Brainiac, is restored on Earth, only for problems to arise, escalating to a war between Earth and the Kandorians, leading them to relocate first to another planet and then to the far future of the Legion of Super Heroes. The story's success led to other stories in the future history being released including Camelot 3000, in which King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table were reincarnated in the distant future, released in 1982.
In the mid 1980's, over at Fawcett Comics, Alan Moore took over writing for Captain Marvel and forever changed it, rescuing it from its fading popularity. Alan Moore reintroduced Billy Batson as a man with amnesia who suddenly remembered his old life and went out to find his old friends, discovering he was actually created via a government experiment and all his Comic book stories were only things he was tricked into believing happened. His former sidekick, Captain Marvel Jr, AKA Freddy Freeman also remembered his past life and went insane, murdering an entire city, and forcing Captain Marvel to kill him. Captain Marvel then began to set about creating a Utopia which was explored by Moore's successor on the book, Neil Gaiman. The run had Captain Marvel doubt his actions but was more hopeful than Moore's tenure, exploring surreal and universal concepts. It was a breath of fresh air after Moore's grim run. It was also the Calm before the Storm that would be the Crisis[2]. The Crisis would impact many worlds as its title would imply and the world of Captain Marvel would also be impacted. Possibly the only world to get out unscathed was Gemworld from the series Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld, which had been ended by its original creators. Gemworld was threatened by the Crisis but the epilogue showed that world survived somewhat unscathed.
Cover to The New Teen Titans.
With changes in policy, titles and therefore creators were given breathing room. DC relaxed in its approach. Storylines would be released more sparingly, often when they were judged as perfect. The approach of Quality over Quantity became normal and readers were given the option of either buying parts of a story or buying the graphic novel version when it was completed and advertising was devoted towards promoting the storylines when they were coming out. In this regard, the Comic Book landscape became more akin to seasons of a TV Show. In 1980, Marv Wolfman and George Pérez introduced The New Teen Titans. which rebooted the team with an almost entirely new roster. The series competed with Marvel's X-Men, though behind the scenes, there wasn't any actual hostility behind the two companies as the DC writers had also once been Marvel Writers and crossovers became more common, and were even considered canon between the two. This includes Superman meets the Amazing Spider-Man and The New Teen Titans meet the Uncanny X-Men. The New Teen Titans book, because of the freedom afforded to the creators, went on for six years. Wolfman and Pérez took advantage of the limited-series option to create spin-off stories detailing the origins of the characters called Tales of the New Teen Titans, to present origin stories of their original characters without having to break the narrative flow of the main series or oblige them to double their work load with another ongoing title. This series would reveal details such as Raven having Native American heritage.
The Stories in the main book Teen Titans book changed with The Judas Contract in which Terra(much more sympathetic and less coldhearted and psychopathic than OTL), bretrayed the Titans, sacrificing themselves, killing Deathstroke in the process. Both remained dead, adding weight to the story. Of course this was just prior to Crisis on Infinite Earths, which would reboot the Universe[3]. Aside from Terra, Wolfman and Perez introduced several new characters and Superheroes, including the transformation of the character Frances Kane into a Heroine, Perez giving her a red and blue outfit, and Cole, who would fortunately survive the Crisis. Wolfman and Perez also penned the graphic novel "Games", which explained the final fate of Cyborg's friend, Sarah Simms while also killing off the despised character of Danny Chase(though comic reviewer Lewis Lovhaug has admitted to "loving the Little Brat").
Wolfman and Perez announced their intent to have Nightwing and Starfire marry. The Batman writers realized it would seem strange for Batman's adopted son to marry before him and so Batman and Catwoman were to be married first. This became a large groundbreaking event, so much so that no writer wanted to undo it and face the resulting backlash, and it would survive passed the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Despite a brief moment where Selina Kyle is abducted by some of Batman's enemies, the wedding went off without a hitch.
The Wedding of Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle
The Wedding of Dick Grayson and Koriand'r
Nightwing and Starfire were married soon after, and would temporarily retire from the team while letting Donna Troy to take over as leader. However, Donna would also retire into marriage with her husband Terry Long. This left team leadership to fall to Roy Queen, formerly Roy Harper, whom Oliver Queen had legally adopted (The Starfire and Nightwing relationship eclipsed DC's push for Barbara Gordon and Dick Grayson ITTL that is represented in Batman: The Animated Series, Teen Titans, and the DC Animated Movie Universe). A Nightwing mini-series was released as set up to the aforementioned marriage. Both Nightwing and Starfire were heavily redesigned in their costumes and overall look. The series was written by Jonathan Peterson(Who in OTL left for Image Comics).
And for a time everything was wonderful until...
Footnotes
[1] OTL DC's first black Superhero was almost The Black Bomber, a racist skinhead who transformed into a superpowered black alter ego, was fortunately prevented from being the first Black Superhero in DC. Not kidding that almost happened, executive meddling was a good thing that time.
[2] Moore's Captain Marvel and the subsequent Gaiman run are TTL's equivalent of the OTL Miracleman series, a character originally created because of the loss of the Captain Marvel rights. Which never happened here.
[3] Deathstroke's Death actually means he never gets his own series which also prevents Cheshire from bombing Qurac, considered the character's moral event Horizon, making them irredeemable, as that event occurred in Deathstroke's solo series, which doesn't happen here. Deathstroke's death is a subversion of the unfortunate implications brought up about how Deathstroke is equally as guilty as Terra OTL but got off scot free and easily forgiven compared to her.
Following the science-fiction tone of the Silver Age, there was a shift to darker elements previously somewhat restrained by the Comics Code Authority. After Marvel released "The Green Goblin Reborn!" story, tackling drugs, DC chose to fire back. The result was the story "Snowbird's Don't Fly." by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. The story concerned Green Arrow discovering his teenage sidekick Speedy had become a Heroin addict and vowing to help him.
Portrait of Jenette Khan
Behind the scenes, Infantino stepped down as editorial director and was replaced by Jenette Kahn, a former children's magazine publisher. The first thing she attempted to do was convince Bill Sarnoff, to keep DC owned by Warner Publishing. She failed to do this, meaning that DC would struggle behind Marvel(and averting the DC Explosion of books overflooding the market and subsequent implosion as many creators were fired when the strategy failed). Instead DC went back to its strategy of promising more freedom over created characters. The timing was perfect as Marvel's editor in Chief, Jim Shooter alienated several of Marvel's staff and many jumped ship to DC, including Roy Thomas, Gene Colan, Marv Wolfman, and George Perez.
After World War II, Wonder Woman had been given more focus and attention on world-building(avoiding the depowering she received OTL). Her stories in the last breaths of the Marston era had moved towards a Space setting. That was where Wonder Woman lived After Marston. Science Fiction had gotten popular again and many of the stories became Wonder Woman in Space, which allowed her to survive the 50's. Into the 1960's Donna Troy had been introduced into the books and basically treated as an adopted daughter by Diana and her husband Steve Trevor. Then, Diana Trevor made her triumphant and permanent return to Earth, yet things were different. Steve Trevor was lost in space for some time. When he returned, he had visibly aged due to the travel through space being longer for him than Diana. There was a reason for this transformation and it soon became clear. Diana and Steve soon began to work for the government. A femme fatale and an older gentleman naturally called to mind the British TV series The Avengers that was popular at the time. it was blatant DC was attempting to capitalize on the show's popularity, though eventually Trevor was restored to a younger age by Aphrodite to hold off his rapid aging. Still things were different enough with the introduction of Diana and Steve's daughter Stephanie Trevor. Stephanie was introduced as a baby. Towards the end of that era, Diana was giving birth and Steve had crashed while piloting a plane during the then current(this being in 1973)Vietnam War. Donna Troy found him and flew him to see his newborn daughter. Steve Trevor saw his daughter and said goodbye before passing away.
The Death of Steve Trevor, 1973
The change to Wonder Woman's status quo was not the only effort for DC to capitalize on the Spy fad of the era. DC realized it still had the rights to create James Bond Comics ever since they made an adaptation of Dr.No in 1962. Their adaptation of that film had gained no attention yet they thought they should do something while they had the rights. DC questioned if the series would continue with Sean Connery's departure from the role, but these fears were alleviated when it was revealed the next Bond film would embrace the Space fad. Jack Kirby was offered the job on the Bond Comics to write the adaptation of Moonraker due to his artistic depiction of space as a vibrant colorful world rather than blackness with white dots. and accepted. Kirby had recently left Marvel for DC. Kirby's art and writing lifted the book as without a solid movie to go on at the time he was allowed to be original with his stories. Kirby was a machine, able to crank out multiple books quickly and efficiently without sacrificing quality. DC in exchange allowed him to continue his New Gods Story, which was intended as the distant finale of Kirby and Stan Lee's Thor series, something later folded back into the series proper. The New Gods series concluded in 1977 with an intense battle in which the antagonist and protagonist Darkseid and his son Orion killed each other, fulfilling an ancient prophecy in the series. Kirby would return to do spy stories with a comic adaptation of the Prisoner, which he enjoyed because his own world view was much like the fate of the titular character, feeling trapped in life itself, unable to escape.
Inked Page for The Prisoner by Jack Kirby
In 1977, Black Lightning premiered as DC's first Black Superhero with his own series(DC's first Black Superhero being Ferro Lad). His first issue nemesis was the rejected concept which he had replaced, a Skinhead Mad Bomber[1]. Another Black Superhero, Vixen, got her own series soon after, with Teen Titan member Harlequin having back-up stories in the Vixen series in 1978. DC, out of their high from gaining the resulting public attention from making history, attempted to copyright the term Superhero, along with their rival Marvel Comics, claiming that when people though of Superheroes they thought of the two companies, though they failed in this venture.
Rerelease of the World of New Krypton series, art is a repainting of the original Cover by Gary Frank
As the miniseries was becoming popular on television, the miniseries format was also becoming more popular in Comics, giving birth to the rise of the comic book limited series and allowing publishers to release more self contained stories. Finite storylines became more popular over serialized ones. The first of these was the Superman storyline World of New Krypton in 1979, in which the city of Kandor, a Kryptonian city shrunken by the Supervillain Brainiac, is restored on Earth, only for problems to arise, escalating to a war between Earth and the Kandorians, leading them to relocate first to another planet and then to the far future of the Legion of Super Heroes. The story's success led to other stories in the future history being released including Camelot 3000, in which King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table were reincarnated in the distant future, released in 1982.
In the mid 1980's, over at Fawcett Comics, Alan Moore took over writing for Captain Marvel and forever changed it, rescuing it from its fading popularity. Alan Moore reintroduced Billy Batson as a man with amnesia who suddenly remembered his old life and went out to find his old friends, discovering he was actually created via a government experiment and all his Comic book stories were only things he was tricked into believing happened. His former sidekick, Captain Marvel Jr, AKA Freddy Freeman also remembered his past life and went insane, murdering an entire city, and forcing Captain Marvel to kill him. Captain Marvel then began to set about creating a Utopia which was explored by Moore's successor on the book, Neil Gaiman. The run had Captain Marvel doubt his actions but was more hopeful than Moore's tenure, exploring surreal and universal concepts. It was a breath of fresh air after Moore's grim run. It was also the Calm before the Storm that would be the Crisis[2]. The Crisis would impact many worlds as its title would imply and the world of Captain Marvel would also be impacted. Possibly the only world to get out unscathed was Gemworld from the series Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld, which had been ended by its original creators. Gemworld was threatened by the Crisis but the epilogue showed that world survived somewhat unscathed.
Cover to The New Teen Titans.
With changes in policy, titles and therefore creators were given breathing room. DC relaxed in its approach. Storylines would be released more sparingly, often when they were judged as perfect. The approach of Quality over Quantity became normal and readers were given the option of either buying parts of a story or buying the graphic novel version when it was completed and advertising was devoted towards promoting the storylines when they were coming out. In this regard, the Comic Book landscape became more akin to seasons of a TV Show. In 1980, Marv Wolfman and George Pérez introduced The New Teen Titans. which rebooted the team with an almost entirely new roster. The series competed with Marvel's X-Men, though behind the scenes, there wasn't any actual hostility behind the two companies as the DC writers had also once been Marvel Writers and crossovers became more common, and were even considered canon between the two. This includes Superman meets the Amazing Spider-Man and The New Teen Titans meet the Uncanny X-Men. The New Teen Titans book, because of the freedom afforded to the creators, went on for six years. Wolfman and Pérez took advantage of the limited-series option to create spin-off stories detailing the origins of the characters called Tales of the New Teen Titans, to present origin stories of their original characters without having to break the narrative flow of the main series or oblige them to double their work load with another ongoing title. This series would reveal details such as Raven having Native American heritage.
The Stories in the main book Teen Titans book changed with The Judas Contract in which Terra(much more sympathetic and less coldhearted and psychopathic than OTL), bretrayed the Titans, sacrificing themselves, killing Deathstroke in the process. Both remained dead, adding weight to the story. Of course this was just prior to Crisis on Infinite Earths, which would reboot the Universe[3]. Aside from Terra, Wolfman and Perez introduced several new characters and Superheroes, including the transformation of the character Frances Kane into a Heroine, Perez giving her a red and blue outfit, and Cole, who would fortunately survive the Crisis. Wolfman and Perez also penned the graphic novel "Games", which explained the final fate of Cyborg's friend, Sarah Simms while also killing off the despised character of Danny Chase(though comic reviewer Lewis Lovhaug has admitted to "loving the Little Brat").
Wolfman and Perez announced their intent to have Nightwing and Starfire marry. The Batman writers realized it would seem strange for Batman's adopted son to marry before him and so Batman and Catwoman were to be married first. This became a large groundbreaking event, so much so that no writer wanted to undo it and face the resulting backlash, and it would survive passed the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Despite a brief moment where Selina Kyle is abducted by some of Batman's enemies, the wedding went off without a hitch.
The Wedding of Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle
The Wedding of Dick Grayson and Koriand'r
Nightwing and Starfire were married soon after, and would temporarily retire from the team while letting Donna Troy to take over as leader. However, Donna would also retire into marriage with her husband Terry Long. This left team leadership to fall to Roy Queen, formerly Roy Harper, whom Oliver Queen had legally adopted (The Starfire and Nightwing relationship eclipsed DC's push for Barbara Gordon and Dick Grayson ITTL that is represented in Batman: The Animated Series, Teen Titans, and the DC Animated Movie Universe). A Nightwing mini-series was released as set up to the aforementioned marriage. Both Nightwing and Starfire were heavily redesigned in their costumes and overall look. The series was written by Jonathan Peterson(Who in OTL left for Image Comics).
And for a time everything was wonderful until...
Footnotes
[1] OTL DC's first black Superhero was almost The Black Bomber, a racist skinhead who transformed into a superpowered black alter ego, was fortunately prevented from being the first Black Superhero in DC. Not kidding that almost happened, executive meddling was a good thing that time.
[2] Moore's Captain Marvel and the subsequent Gaiman run are TTL's equivalent of the OTL Miracleman series, a character originally created because of the loss of the Captain Marvel rights. Which never happened here.
[3] Deathstroke's Death actually means he never gets his own series which also prevents Cheshire from bombing Qurac, considered the character's moral event Horizon, making them irredeemable, as that event occurred in Deathstroke's solo series, which doesn't happen here. Deathstroke's death is a subversion of the unfortunate implications brought up about how Deathstroke is equally as guilty as Terra OTL but got off scot free and easily forgiven compared to her.
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History of the Marvel Universe(The Bronze Age): 1970-1984
History of the Marvel Universe: The Bronze Age(1970-1984)
In 1971, the United States Department of Health, Education, and Welfare asked Marvel editor-in-chief to create a story about drug abuse. The result was a three part Spider-Man storyline covering Harry Osborn's drug addiction. The Comics Code Authority refused to approve it but it was ran by Lee and Goodman regardless. The United States Department of Health also backed the story. This directly undermined the authority of the CCA and would lead to its eventual downfall.
Goodman retired in 1972 and installed his son, Chip, as publisher, only for Stan Lee to succeed him and become Marvel's President. Lee began to appoint creators to important roles such as Roy Thomas. It was Thomas's idea to add the phrase "Stan Lee Presents" to the opening of each book. Under Lee, the company began to expand its content to include Horror(Tomb of Dracula), Kung Fu(Shang-Chi: Master of Kung Fu and Iron Fist), sword and sorcery(Conan the Barbarian and Red Sonja), comedy(Howard the Duck) and science fiction ( the licensed 2001: A Space Odyssey, "Killraven" in Amazing Adventures, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, and later the long-running Star Wars series). Marvel therefore gained a reputation for their licensed properties and how they were included in the Marvel Universe canon.
In 1974, Goodman established his own company upon leaving Marvel called Seaboard Periodicals and created a new line using the old Atlas name, but this didn't last very long. Marvel, following a decline in newsstand distribution, cut ties with distributors and focused on Comic Book shops, averting the cancellation of the cult hit Howard the Duck. Comic Book Shops began to eclipse Newsstands. Marvel also began to enter into radio series and Audio Books, many of which were narrated by Stan Lee and adapted classic stories.
Marvelcon, 1975
Marvel held its own Comic Convention, Marvelcon, in 1975. At the event, Stan Lee revealed that Jack Kirby was returning to Marvel for the first time since his 1970 departure to DC, the two having patched things up. Marvel also introduced superheroes specifically for the British market in the form of Captain Britain, who had British creators behind him. Marvel made a deal to produce comic strips of several of their characters, though the only one that continues to see publication is The Amazing Spider-Man, the others ending by 1982.
Giant Size X-Men
The Roy Thomas X-Men Run continued into the 1970's until the release of Giant Size X-Men, which introduced a new team assembled to rescue the original X-Men on a mission to the island of Krakoa, which was revealed to be a sentient mutant. This new X-Men team also included a new writing team under writer Len Wein and artist Dave Cockrum. The success of Giant Size X-Men led to a second such issue released as Giant Size X-Men 2, which depicted the new X-Men team battling the Avengers villain Count Nefaria(Comprising issues of X-Men #94 and #95 OTL). In a twist, three of the new members "flunked" the test to become official members of the team: Thunderbird, Sunfire and Banshee. Wein was told to kill off either Wolverine or Thunderbird. He appeared to kill off Wolverine when the mutant disobeyed Cyclops's order and jumped onto a plane seconds before it exploded. Wolverine appeared to die, his body being recovered. Suddenly he woke up alive again, revealing for the first time that Wolverine had a healing factor. This was due to Wolverine suddenly being very popular. Thunderbird meanwhile left the team. For the 25th Anniversary of All-New, All-Different X-Men, Scott Lobdell and Aaron Lopresti did a two-issue Thunderbird mini-series that brought back the character, who went onto appear in Exiles. Another new character, Nightcrawler was originally intended to be Jewish but this was changed to Catholic, playing better with the idea that he looked like a Demon. His parents were eventually revealed to be Brotherhood members Mystique and Destiny. Mystique actually being his father due to shapeshifting into a man at the time of Nightcrawler's conception. Len Wein also introduced Zerox(OTL Multiple Man using their original pitched name as a pun on Xerox, something which Deadpool later mocks him for). Another character, while not created by Wein, was actually from FOOM magazine's "Create-a-Villain" contest in 1973. The winning entry was a character called Humus Sapiens who was incorporated as one of Nefaria's henchmen.
Pin during Captain America's Presidential Campaign
There was a search for ideas for Captain America(The OTL Secret Empire arc not happening due to no Nixon administration ITTL). Then the writers struck gold. Captain America ran for President. The storylines centered first on Captain America's 1976 Campaign for President in which he defeated Ronald Reagan and even got to knock George Wallace down a peg. Finally Cap emerged victorious and served as President in universe. He would choose not to run for reelection, being succeeded in 1980 by Tony Stark running as the Republican candidate. In the aftermath Captain America was assassinated by the Red Skull. His mantle as Captain America taken up by Sam Wilson, the then current Falcon, who faced accusations that he was a pimp(False ITTL though an ignored retcon OTL). These rascist rumors were discovered to be part of a plan by Hydra to turn the people against the new Captain America. A Captain America TV Movie was in production. To tie into the Comics, DeMatteis wrote an oversized treasury edition one-shot.
The First Issue of Marvel's What If?
The Marvel What-If series was introduced in 1977. It contained stories in which one event went differently and followed the divergence from there. Some even became continuing series such as What If Spider-Man joined the Fantastic Four? Which he had tried to do but was rejected. The end result is most of Spider-Man's enemies are more easily dealt with by the new FF team while others such as Mysterio and the Chameleon choose not to antagonize Spider-Man at all due to his new allies. This includes Jameson changing his tune towards the wall crawler, fortunately for him, the story's divergence point occurs in Spidey's first issue, meaning Jameson only recently began targeting the Webhead for slander. Spidey's spider-sense also helps the team at certain points, however, Sue Storm sees herself as unnecessary on the team due to Spider-Man taking her place and leaves Richards for the Sub-Mariner. This being early in the Fantastic Four's career, Sue Storm is only dating Richards and has no longer attachment to him.
Other stories include What-if Captain America was never frozen? in which Cap leads the still formed Invaders against Communist threats and both Namor and the Human Torch do not suffer the fates that led to their disappearances in main Marvel Continuity, though this means the Android Vision does not exist in this reality as the original Torch's parts were used in his construction. Cap is then chosen as the first Director of Shield over Nick Fury by President John F.Kennedy and begins to combat Hydra in the Cold War era. He eventually passes on the position of Director to James "Bucky" Barnes, who also survived. Cap also saved Magneto from Auschwitz and after a conversation, prevented Magneto's rise, leading Magneto to become a much more Malcolm X type figure, without resorting to terrorism. What-if Gwen Stacy was bitten by the spider instead of Peter Parker? is another notable one, the first divergence appears to actually be Gwen meeting Peter in High School rather than College. Interestingly, there were actually a series of short stories showing different people getting the Spider Bite, many of which such as Flash Thompson and John Jameson perishing in battle due to lacking the knowledge for creating the Web Shooters Peter had. Peter designs the Web Shooters for Gwen, preventing a similar fate. This story eventually evolved into the series Spider-Gwen. What-if the Punisher became the Ghost Rider? leads to an even more violent vigilante and many dead Supervillains. This Ghost Rider also avoids fights with Spider-Man and Daredevil due to seeing that they are free of sin and not evil. What-if Wakanda opened up to the rest of the world in World War II? has an attack by the Red Skull and Wakandan deaths lead to Wakanda entering the War, quickly setting up an allied occupational government in all of the former Axis Occupied African countries. the impact on history is then shown. What If The Fantastic Four had been defeated by the Dark Raider? was made into a 22 page story by Randy & Jean-Marc Lofficier, continuing the X-Men as vampires universe in What If? Vol 2 #24 and What If? Vol 2 #37-39, which depicted characters fro mseveral What ifs joining together in the time quake event. Timequake, the story running through What If? Vol 2 #35-39, ended by revealing the Time-Keepers were using time as an energy battery, and explaining their involvement with the Time Variance Authority.
Speaking of Jean-Marc Lofficier, the man made a name for himself for working in horror. His Book of the Vishanti backup stories in The Tomb of Dracula provided additional details to horror/mystic characters in the Marvel Universe, such as revealing that Yellow Claw and Fu Manchu were brothers affiliated with the Immortal Nine, a group exposed to Dracula's Pool of Blood, including Cagliostro and Aged Genghis. He also wrote an issue of Shamrock & Peregrine which explained and tied up the family tree for the Frankenstein family and how it factored into the Marvel Universe.
In 1978, Jim Shooter became Marvel's editor-in-chief. Although controversial, Shooter would solve many issues plaguing the company and his tenure was marked by several famous runs by creators such as Chris Claremont and John Byrne's on Uncanny X-Men and Frank Miller's Daredevil, both major commercial successes. To counter DC, Shooter founded the Epic imprint for creator-owned stories, introduced creator royalties and helped bring Marvel into the direct market. Shooter also introduced company wide crossover events such as Contest of Champions and Secret Wars. Frank Miller made his debut on Daredevil with a story tackling drugs(not published due to Comic Code Authority interference OTL) and continued with the critically acclaimed Daredevil: Born Again.
The X-Men were a run away success at this time, leading to a series crossing over Iceman and Doctor Strange of all people, yet even that seeing success. There was a series released called The Furies, which had Storm as the leader of a team of female superheroes. The group's other members included Tigra, Namorita, Clea, Dragonfly of the Ani-Men (referencing a scene in X-Men #104 involving Dragonfly's escape from Muir Island), and a new alien heroine named Moon Fang. Dave Cockrum launched the series. A New member of the X-Men, Dazzler was introduced, modeled after Grace Jones, but Filmworks representatives wanted Bo Derek to play the role in a live-action adaptation, so she was redesigned to be a blonde white woman. The Resulting film is an odd spectacle to say the least.
The character Mockingbird was originally going to be an entirely separate character from Bobbi Morse, who was going by the name "Huntress" at the time. She would have had the same design she eventually sported, but would have been African-American. Also, she would have first appeared as an enemy of Spider-Woman. When the Huntress name became unavailable thanks to DC publishing their own heroine by that name(bringing Helena Wayne into continuity as the daughter of the married Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle). Marvel made the decision to merge Huntress and Mockingbird into a single character.
Claremont and Byrne introduced a group of young mutants to return the X-Men to the school aspect, the most famous of which became Kitty Pryde but there was also a young Reality Warper named Willie Evans (who had previously appeared in Fantastic Four) and a monstrous hillbilly teen named Caliban (no relation to the Morlock who would later be introduced with that name who does not exist ITTL, or at least under a different name), who had the power to project his life force into inanimate objects. In Uncanny X-Men #133 (May, 1980), Wolverine attacked and killed several Hellfire Club mercenaries: Wade Cole, Angelo Macon, and Murray Reese(All three remain dead, OTL, editor in chief Jim Shooter OTL used his superiority to request Wolverine not kill anyone and so they later turned up alive when they were intended to be disposable mooks).
Jean Grey was killed off in the Dark Phoenix saga. Something which Writer Christ Claremont was against but was Shooter's order, though Claremont later thought the story was better for it. Wolverine was not "sissified" as Jim Shooter put it(which is subjective as he was actually the most saddened by Jean's Death OTL). Chris Claremont wrote up a Phoenix Miniseries focusing on Jean Grey and exploring the origin of the Phoenix Force. The series also explored the future relationship between Rachel Summers and Franklin Richards previously seen in Days of Future Past in greater detail(Days of Future Present doesn't exist ITTL as a result of this series being made).
Ad for Contest of Champions.
The 1980 Olympics were not boycotted and so Marvel's Contest of Champions kept its original idea as an Olympic Games tie in but with Marvel characters allowed to participate. Without Carol Danvers or Mar-Vell existing, Rogue's powers are now depicted differently. She is now able to take more from those she touches and is a normal human otherwise, though to fly, Storm would often allow her to borrow their flight and strength respectively after a small touch.
The new X-Men villain Mister Sinister was revealed to be a psychic projection of a Mutant who grew up with Scott Summers. He was able to project himself as a more intimidating foe(hence his ridiculous name. This also made him a dark satire of Fawcett Comic's Captain Marvel, which Marvel was angry at not getting the rights to). Mister Sinister also created clones of Sabertooth upon capturing him(explaining some of the villain's more ridiculous appearances before he became a serious threat). The same child also created Gambit as a projection to infiltrate the team(even seducing Storm as she was leader at the time) though he would fall in love with Rogue and betray his creator(the original plan OTL, as it was intended as a Take that to Terra from Teen Titans). Sabertooth was revealed to be Wolverine's father by Chris Claremont and John Byrne. Claremont wrote a story in which Wolverine and Mariko married, at their wedding they as they said "I do", Sabertooth jumped out and seemingly killed Mariko on the altar. Mariko was alive but braindead. Wolverine didn't believe that she was gone, until Jean linked their minds, and he saw that there was nobody there and he pulled the plug on her. Wolverine went searching for revenge against Sabretooth. Wolverine finally killed Sabretooth in the aftermath by trapping him in between two of his claws, telling Sabertooth not to ask for the third, which was in the middle and would pierce Sabertooth's brain. Sabertooth fought back and Wolverine popped the third claw, killing Sabertooth in 1981(much earlier than Wolverine and Sabertooth first meeting in OTL's Mutant Massacre).
The event known as Magneto War involved Magneto tilting the Earth on its axis, sending the world into an ice age. Magneto trapped the X-Men in an illusion of a mutant concentration camp as a warning of what was to come if mutantkind didn't stand up and fight back against humanity. The X-Men were divided over the issue, with some of the heroes siding with Magneto against their former teammates. Perhaps most shockingly, Storm was killed after a Heroic Sacrifice to fix the planet after Magneto had tilted it on its axis. Magneto was so horrified he surrendered himself to custody afterwards.
The seminal X-Men story God Loves, Man Kills was released, written by Chris Clarement and illustrated by Neal Adams. It's success led to it becoming canon as it depicted Magneto imprisoned and working with the X-Men, paving the way for his reformation. To fill the void a new Brotherhood was introduced. John Byrne was writing at the time and revealed that Brotherhood member Pyro was gay(intended OTL). Consequently Claremont did not reveal him to be Australian to try and undo this. Byrne also created a lengthy plotline where Wolverine was turned into the brainwashed minion of "The Hand", leading to Forge and Banshee having to rescue him(Similar to OTL Wolverine: Enemy of the State, but very different due to occurring much earlier).
Marvel launched the Secret Wars event in 1984 at the tail end of the Bronze Age as by 1986, both Marvel and DC would be celebrating their anniversaries with major world changing events. The Premise concerned several Marvel Heroes and Villains being transported to an alien planet to do battle by the mysterious Beyonder.
The heroes include the Avengers(Captain America, Giant Man, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, the Wasp, and the Hulk), the Fantastic Four (Human Torch, Mister Fantastic, Invisible Woman and the Thing), solo heroes (Spider-Man and Doctor Strange) and the X-Men (Colossus, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Rogue, a resurrected Storm, Wolverine, and Iceman).
The villains include Red Skull, Ultron, The Mandarin, Thanos, Loki, Kang the Conqueror, the Leader, Doctor Doom, Galactus, Sub-Mariner, Annihilus, Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Dormammu, Kingpin, Magneto, Juggernaut, Mystique, Sabertooth, Emma Frost, Bullseye, Abomination, and Baron Zemo.
The event had Doctor Doom steal the Beyonder's power and seemingly kill the heroes only for them to return and defeat Doom, restoring the Beyonder. Everyone was sent back to Earth. Spider-Man however had gained a new black alien costume while on the planet that would have major repercussions down the line.
At the time, DC was in a bind that ironically, Marvel would find itself in. DC as an intellectual property was seeing massive success in film, and television. The Comics on the other hand, were not doing nearly as well. They were a Comic company excelling in everything but Comics. So a crazy idea was proposed. Marvel would take their crack as writing DC characters and vice versa. The two had crossovers before and worked well together despite, like professional wrestlers, pretending to hate each other on the page. Marvel was doing excellent thanks in part to their excellent Licensed Comics, such as Transformers, R.O.M. Space Knight, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Godzilla. Their success meant Warner Bros called up Marvel to propose the companies switch characters. It would be treated like the licensed comics. Someone at DC slipped up and commented they would be rebooting the universe soon, which gave Marvel the incentive to commit to the deal as they would effectively be given permission to create their own version of the DC Characters in the Marvel Universe that were wholly their own. These issues were often labeled Marvel Presents...or Stan Lee presents...Superman or Batman. As was the common practice with licensed Comics, the DC characters were native to the canon Marvel Universe.
The books would launch with Seven titles:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Teen Titans
Justice League
Legion of Superheroes.
Here's how Marvel's term with the DC Characters went.
Superman
"John Byrne really wanted to do Superman. He burst into my office with a Cover done. Not a sketch for a cover. A Cover. He had this whole story and everything."
-Jim Shooter in interview.
John Byrne's pitch was known as Man of Steel.It kept most of Superman's origin story and characters. Krypton was destroyed by Galactus in this continuity. Lex Luthor made his debut as a businessman and a genius, combining two versions of him. Superman goes to work at the Daily Bugle instead of the Daily Planet.
Batman
Bruce Wayne travelled the world. His training included journeying to Nanda Parbat, where he briefly met Doctor Doom and in Wakanda. Upon returning to the city he became a vigilante. He notably encounters Spider-Man early in his career. He also recruits Dick Grayson, being active in New York instead of Gotham. He's also a business rival of Tony Stark.
Wonder Woman
Wonder Woman was introduced as a nemesis of Hercules, due to his backstory involving him enslaving the Amazons. In this new continuity, she met Captain America when he crashed onto the Island and broke the rule of the island by leaving and donning a costume of her own. She had a romantic interest in Captain America before his disappearance, after which she disappeared for some time.
Green Lantern
The preexisting Nova Corps was reworked in an amusing way to become the Green Lantern Corps. Two ancient entities emerge in the universe. The Nova Corps is completely devastated and the Green Entity grants the Nova Corps green Power rings. The yellow entity grants powers to a being known as Sinestro. One power ring travels to Earth and recruits Hal Jordan and several others to fight the yellow entity.
Teen Titans
Followed the Marv Wolfman and George Perez team, with the two writers even returning to create the Marvel versions of the characters. Most of the character backstories were kept intact, though Beast Boy was a mutant. The team began led by Robin, who recently left his role as Batman's sidekick.
Justice League
Justice League brought the characters together along with the Flash, who recently was granted his powers. Aquaman is not present. Namor taking his place on the team. Martian Manhunter also appears.
Legion of Superheroes.
The Legion of Superheroes are a group of metahuman teenagers who oppose Kang the Conqueror's regime.
The DC characters would be at Marvel for about a year before DC requested them back for the planned Crisis on Infinite Earths, after that the DC characters, while still existing in the Marvel Universe, received less focus, being reduced largely to cameos. It was a flash in the pan, but would not be the last time the two companies would come together.
In 1971, the United States Department of Health, Education, and Welfare asked Marvel editor-in-chief to create a story about drug abuse. The result was a three part Spider-Man storyline covering Harry Osborn's drug addiction. The Comics Code Authority refused to approve it but it was ran by Lee and Goodman regardless. The United States Department of Health also backed the story. This directly undermined the authority of the CCA and would lead to its eventual downfall.
Goodman retired in 1972 and installed his son, Chip, as publisher, only for Stan Lee to succeed him and become Marvel's President. Lee began to appoint creators to important roles such as Roy Thomas. It was Thomas's idea to add the phrase "Stan Lee Presents" to the opening of each book. Under Lee, the company began to expand its content to include Horror(Tomb of Dracula), Kung Fu(Shang-Chi: Master of Kung Fu and Iron Fist), sword and sorcery(Conan the Barbarian and Red Sonja), comedy(Howard the Duck) and science fiction ( the licensed 2001: A Space Odyssey, "Killraven" in Amazing Adventures, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, and later the long-running Star Wars series). Marvel therefore gained a reputation for their licensed properties and how they were included in the Marvel Universe canon.
In 1974, Goodman established his own company upon leaving Marvel called Seaboard Periodicals and created a new line using the old Atlas name, but this didn't last very long. Marvel, following a decline in newsstand distribution, cut ties with distributors and focused on Comic Book shops, averting the cancellation of the cult hit Howard the Duck. Comic Book Shops began to eclipse Newsstands. Marvel also began to enter into radio series and Audio Books, many of which were narrated by Stan Lee and adapted classic stories.
Marvelcon, 1975
Marvel held its own Comic Convention, Marvelcon, in 1975. At the event, Stan Lee revealed that Jack Kirby was returning to Marvel for the first time since his 1970 departure to DC, the two having patched things up. Marvel also introduced superheroes specifically for the British market in the form of Captain Britain, who had British creators behind him. Marvel made a deal to produce comic strips of several of their characters, though the only one that continues to see publication is The Amazing Spider-Man, the others ending by 1982.
Giant Size X-Men
The Roy Thomas X-Men Run continued into the 1970's until the release of Giant Size X-Men, which introduced a new team assembled to rescue the original X-Men on a mission to the island of Krakoa, which was revealed to be a sentient mutant. This new X-Men team also included a new writing team under writer Len Wein and artist Dave Cockrum. The success of Giant Size X-Men led to a second such issue released as Giant Size X-Men 2, which depicted the new X-Men team battling the Avengers villain Count Nefaria(Comprising issues of X-Men #94 and #95 OTL). In a twist, three of the new members "flunked" the test to become official members of the team: Thunderbird, Sunfire and Banshee. Wein was told to kill off either Wolverine or Thunderbird. He appeared to kill off Wolverine when the mutant disobeyed Cyclops's order and jumped onto a plane seconds before it exploded. Wolverine appeared to die, his body being recovered. Suddenly he woke up alive again, revealing for the first time that Wolverine had a healing factor. This was due to Wolverine suddenly being very popular. Thunderbird meanwhile left the team. For the 25th Anniversary of All-New, All-Different X-Men, Scott Lobdell and Aaron Lopresti did a two-issue Thunderbird mini-series that brought back the character, who went onto appear in Exiles. Another new character, Nightcrawler was originally intended to be Jewish but this was changed to Catholic, playing better with the idea that he looked like a Demon. His parents were eventually revealed to be Brotherhood members Mystique and Destiny. Mystique actually being his father due to shapeshifting into a man at the time of Nightcrawler's conception. Len Wein also introduced Zerox(OTL Multiple Man using their original pitched name as a pun on Xerox, something which Deadpool later mocks him for). Another character, while not created by Wein, was actually from FOOM magazine's "Create-a-Villain" contest in 1973. The winning entry was a character called Humus Sapiens who was incorporated as one of Nefaria's henchmen.
Pin during Captain America's Presidential Campaign
There was a search for ideas for Captain America(The OTL Secret Empire arc not happening due to no Nixon administration ITTL). Then the writers struck gold. Captain America ran for President. The storylines centered first on Captain America's 1976 Campaign for President in which he defeated Ronald Reagan and even got to knock George Wallace down a peg. Finally Cap emerged victorious and served as President in universe. He would choose not to run for reelection, being succeeded in 1980 by Tony Stark running as the Republican candidate. In the aftermath Captain America was assassinated by the Red Skull. His mantle as Captain America taken up by Sam Wilson, the then current Falcon, who faced accusations that he was a pimp(False ITTL though an ignored retcon OTL). These rascist rumors were discovered to be part of a plan by Hydra to turn the people against the new Captain America. A Captain America TV Movie was in production. To tie into the Comics, DeMatteis wrote an oversized treasury edition one-shot.
The First Issue of Marvel's What If?
The Marvel What-If series was introduced in 1977. It contained stories in which one event went differently and followed the divergence from there. Some even became continuing series such as What If Spider-Man joined the Fantastic Four? Which he had tried to do but was rejected. The end result is most of Spider-Man's enemies are more easily dealt with by the new FF team while others such as Mysterio and the Chameleon choose not to antagonize Spider-Man at all due to his new allies. This includes Jameson changing his tune towards the wall crawler, fortunately for him, the story's divergence point occurs in Spidey's first issue, meaning Jameson only recently began targeting the Webhead for slander. Spidey's spider-sense also helps the team at certain points, however, Sue Storm sees herself as unnecessary on the team due to Spider-Man taking her place and leaves Richards for the Sub-Mariner. This being early in the Fantastic Four's career, Sue Storm is only dating Richards and has no longer attachment to him.
Other stories include What-if Captain America was never frozen? in which Cap leads the still formed Invaders against Communist threats and both Namor and the Human Torch do not suffer the fates that led to their disappearances in main Marvel Continuity, though this means the Android Vision does not exist in this reality as the original Torch's parts were used in his construction. Cap is then chosen as the first Director of Shield over Nick Fury by President John F.Kennedy and begins to combat Hydra in the Cold War era. He eventually passes on the position of Director to James "Bucky" Barnes, who also survived. Cap also saved Magneto from Auschwitz and after a conversation, prevented Magneto's rise, leading Magneto to become a much more Malcolm X type figure, without resorting to terrorism. What-if Gwen Stacy was bitten by the spider instead of Peter Parker? is another notable one, the first divergence appears to actually be Gwen meeting Peter in High School rather than College. Interestingly, there were actually a series of short stories showing different people getting the Spider Bite, many of which such as Flash Thompson and John Jameson perishing in battle due to lacking the knowledge for creating the Web Shooters Peter had. Peter designs the Web Shooters for Gwen, preventing a similar fate. This story eventually evolved into the series Spider-Gwen. What-if the Punisher became the Ghost Rider? leads to an even more violent vigilante and many dead Supervillains. This Ghost Rider also avoids fights with Spider-Man and Daredevil due to seeing that they are free of sin and not evil. What-if Wakanda opened up to the rest of the world in World War II? has an attack by the Red Skull and Wakandan deaths lead to Wakanda entering the War, quickly setting up an allied occupational government in all of the former Axis Occupied African countries. the impact on history is then shown. What If The Fantastic Four had been defeated by the Dark Raider? was made into a 22 page story by Randy & Jean-Marc Lofficier, continuing the X-Men as vampires universe in What If? Vol 2 #24 and What If? Vol 2 #37-39, which depicted characters fro mseveral What ifs joining together in the time quake event. Timequake, the story running through What If? Vol 2 #35-39, ended by revealing the Time-Keepers were using time as an energy battery, and explaining their involvement with the Time Variance Authority.
Speaking of Jean-Marc Lofficier, the man made a name for himself for working in horror. His Book of the Vishanti backup stories in The Tomb of Dracula provided additional details to horror/mystic characters in the Marvel Universe, such as revealing that Yellow Claw and Fu Manchu were brothers affiliated with the Immortal Nine, a group exposed to Dracula's Pool of Blood, including Cagliostro and Aged Genghis. He also wrote an issue of Shamrock & Peregrine which explained and tied up the family tree for the Frankenstein family and how it factored into the Marvel Universe.
In 1978, Jim Shooter became Marvel's editor-in-chief. Although controversial, Shooter would solve many issues plaguing the company and his tenure was marked by several famous runs by creators such as Chris Claremont and John Byrne's on Uncanny X-Men and Frank Miller's Daredevil, both major commercial successes. To counter DC, Shooter founded the Epic imprint for creator-owned stories, introduced creator royalties and helped bring Marvel into the direct market. Shooter also introduced company wide crossover events such as Contest of Champions and Secret Wars. Frank Miller made his debut on Daredevil with a story tackling drugs(not published due to Comic Code Authority interference OTL) and continued with the critically acclaimed Daredevil: Born Again.
The X-Men were a run away success at this time, leading to a series crossing over Iceman and Doctor Strange of all people, yet even that seeing success. There was a series released called The Furies, which had Storm as the leader of a team of female superheroes. The group's other members included Tigra, Namorita, Clea, Dragonfly of the Ani-Men (referencing a scene in X-Men #104 involving Dragonfly's escape from Muir Island), and a new alien heroine named Moon Fang. Dave Cockrum launched the series. A New member of the X-Men, Dazzler was introduced, modeled after Grace Jones, but Filmworks representatives wanted Bo Derek to play the role in a live-action adaptation, so she was redesigned to be a blonde white woman. The Resulting film is an odd spectacle to say the least.
The character Mockingbird was originally going to be an entirely separate character from Bobbi Morse, who was going by the name "Huntress" at the time. She would have had the same design she eventually sported, but would have been African-American. Also, she would have first appeared as an enemy of Spider-Woman. When the Huntress name became unavailable thanks to DC publishing their own heroine by that name(bringing Helena Wayne into continuity as the daughter of the married Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle). Marvel made the decision to merge Huntress and Mockingbird into a single character.
Claremont and Byrne introduced a group of young mutants to return the X-Men to the school aspect, the most famous of which became Kitty Pryde but there was also a young Reality Warper named Willie Evans (who had previously appeared in Fantastic Four) and a monstrous hillbilly teen named Caliban (no relation to the Morlock who would later be introduced with that name who does not exist ITTL, or at least under a different name), who had the power to project his life force into inanimate objects. In Uncanny X-Men #133 (May, 1980), Wolverine attacked and killed several Hellfire Club mercenaries: Wade Cole, Angelo Macon, and Murray Reese(All three remain dead, OTL, editor in chief Jim Shooter OTL used his superiority to request Wolverine not kill anyone and so they later turned up alive when they were intended to be disposable mooks).
Jean Grey was killed off in the Dark Phoenix saga. Something which Writer Christ Claremont was against but was Shooter's order, though Claremont later thought the story was better for it. Wolverine was not "sissified" as Jim Shooter put it(which is subjective as he was actually the most saddened by Jean's Death OTL). Chris Claremont wrote up a Phoenix Miniseries focusing on Jean Grey and exploring the origin of the Phoenix Force. The series also explored the future relationship between Rachel Summers and Franklin Richards previously seen in Days of Future Past in greater detail(Days of Future Present doesn't exist ITTL as a result of this series being made).
Ad for Contest of Champions.
The 1980 Olympics were not boycotted and so Marvel's Contest of Champions kept its original idea as an Olympic Games tie in but with Marvel characters allowed to participate. Without Carol Danvers or Mar-Vell existing, Rogue's powers are now depicted differently. She is now able to take more from those she touches and is a normal human otherwise, though to fly, Storm would often allow her to borrow their flight and strength respectively after a small touch.
The new X-Men villain Mister Sinister was revealed to be a psychic projection of a Mutant who grew up with Scott Summers. He was able to project himself as a more intimidating foe(hence his ridiculous name. This also made him a dark satire of Fawcett Comic's Captain Marvel, which Marvel was angry at not getting the rights to). Mister Sinister also created clones of Sabertooth upon capturing him(explaining some of the villain's more ridiculous appearances before he became a serious threat). The same child also created Gambit as a projection to infiltrate the team(even seducing Storm as she was leader at the time) though he would fall in love with Rogue and betray his creator(the original plan OTL, as it was intended as a Take that to Terra from Teen Titans). Sabertooth was revealed to be Wolverine's father by Chris Claremont and John Byrne. Claremont wrote a story in which Wolverine and Mariko married, at their wedding they as they said "I do", Sabertooth jumped out and seemingly killed Mariko on the altar. Mariko was alive but braindead. Wolverine didn't believe that she was gone, until Jean linked their minds, and he saw that there was nobody there and he pulled the plug on her. Wolverine went searching for revenge against Sabretooth. Wolverine finally killed Sabretooth in the aftermath by trapping him in between two of his claws, telling Sabertooth not to ask for the third, which was in the middle and would pierce Sabertooth's brain. Sabertooth fought back and Wolverine popped the third claw, killing Sabertooth in 1981(much earlier than Wolverine and Sabertooth first meeting in OTL's Mutant Massacre).
The event known as Magneto War involved Magneto tilting the Earth on its axis, sending the world into an ice age. Magneto trapped the X-Men in an illusion of a mutant concentration camp as a warning of what was to come if mutantkind didn't stand up and fight back against humanity. The X-Men were divided over the issue, with some of the heroes siding with Magneto against their former teammates. Perhaps most shockingly, Storm was killed after a Heroic Sacrifice to fix the planet after Magneto had tilted it on its axis. Magneto was so horrified he surrendered himself to custody afterwards.
The seminal X-Men story God Loves, Man Kills was released, written by Chris Clarement and illustrated by Neal Adams. It's success led to it becoming canon as it depicted Magneto imprisoned and working with the X-Men, paving the way for his reformation. To fill the void a new Brotherhood was introduced. John Byrne was writing at the time and revealed that Brotherhood member Pyro was gay(intended OTL). Consequently Claremont did not reveal him to be Australian to try and undo this. Byrne also created a lengthy plotline where Wolverine was turned into the brainwashed minion of "The Hand", leading to Forge and Banshee having to rescue him(Similar to OTL Wolverine: Enemy of the State, but very different due to occurring much earlier).
Marvel launched the Secret Wars event in 1984 at the tail end of the Bronze Age as by 1986, both Marvel and DC would be celebrating their anniversaries with major world changing events. The Premise concerned several Marvel Heroes and Villains being transported to an alien planet to do battle by the mysterious Beyonder.
The heroes include the Avengers(Captain America, Giant Man, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, the Wasp, and the Hulk), the Fantastic Four (Human Torch, Mister Fantastic, Invisible Woman and the Thing), solo heroes (Spider-Man and Doctor Strange) and the X-Men (Colossus, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Rogue, a resurrected Storm, Wolverine, and Iceman).
The villains include Red Skull, Ultron, The Mandarin, Thanos, Loki, Kang the Conqueror, the Leader, Doctor Doom, Galactus, Sub-Mariner, Annihilus, Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Dormammu, Kingpin, Magneto, Juggernaut, Mystique, Sabertooth, Emma Frost, Bullseye, Abomination, and Baron Zemo.
The event had Doctor Doom steal the Beyonder's power and seemingly kill the heroes only for them to return and defeat Doom, restoring the Beyonder. Everyone was sent back to Earth. Spider-Man however had gained a new black alien costume while on the planet that would have major repercussions down the line.
At the time, DC was in a bind that ironically, Marvel would find itself in. DC as an intellectual property was seeing massive success in film, and television. The Comics on the other hand, were not doing nearly as well. They were a Comic company excelling in everything but Comics. So a crazy idea was proposed. Marvel would take their crack as writing DC characters and vice versa. The two had crossovers before and worked well together despite, like professional wrestlers, pretending to hate each other on the page. Marvel was doing excellent thanks in part to their excellent Licensed Comics, such as Transformers, R.O.M. Space Knight, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Godzilla. Their success meant Warner Bros called up Marvel to propose the companies switch characters. It would be treated like the licensed comics. Someone at DC slipped up and commented they would be rebooting the universe soon, which gave Marvel the incentive to commit to the deal as they would effectively be given permission to create their own version of the DC Characters in the Marvel Universe that were wholly their own. These issues were often labeled Marvel Presents...or Stan Lee presents...Superman or Batman. As was the common practice with licensed Comics, the DC characters were native to the canon Marvel Universe.
The books would launch with Seven titles:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Teen Titans
Justice League
Legion of Superheroes.
Here's how Marvel's term with the DC Characters went.
Superman
"John Byrne really wanted to do Superman. He burst into my office with a Cover done. Not a sketch for a cover. A Cover. He had this whole story and everything."
-Jim Shooter in interview.
John Byrne's pitch was known as Man of Steel.It kept most of Superman's origin story and characters. Krypton was destroyed by Galactus in this continuity. Lex Luthor made his debut as a businessman and a genius, combining two versions of him. Superman goes to work at the Daily Bugle instead of the Daily Planet.
Batman
Bruce Wayne travelled the world. His training included journeying to Nanda Parbat, where he briefly met Doctor Doom and in Wakanda. Upon returning to the city he became a vigilante. He notably encounters Spider-Man early in his career. He also recruits Dick Grayson, being active in New York instead of Gotham. He's also a business rival of Tony Stark.
Wonder Woman
Wonder Woman was introduced as a nemesis of Hercules, due to his backstory involving him enslaving the Amazons. In this new continuity, she met Captain America when he crashed onto the Island and broke the rule of the island by leaving and donning a costume of her own. She had a romantic interest in Captain America before his disappearance, after which she disappeared for some time.
Green Lantern
The preexisting Nova Corps was reworked in an amusing way to become the Green Lantern Corps. Two ancient entities emerge in the universe. The Nova Corps is completely devastated and the Green Entity grants the Nova Corps green Power rings. The yellow entity grants powers to a being known as Sinestro. One power ring travels to Earth and recruits Hal Jordan and several others to fight the yellow entity.
Teen Titans
Followed the Marv Wolfman and George Perez team, with the two writers even returning to create the Marvel versions of the characters. Most of the character backstories were kept intact, though Beast Boy was a mutant. The team began led by Robin, who recently left his role as Batman's sidekick.
Justice League
Justice League brought the characters together along with the Flash, who recently was granted his powers. Aquaman is not present. Namor taking his place on the team. Martian Manhunter also appears.
Legion of Superheroes.
The Legion of Superheroes are a group of metahuman teenagers who oppose Kang the Conqueror's regime.
The DC characters would be at Marvel for about a year before DC requested them back for the planned Crisis on Infinite Earths, after that the DC characters, while still existing in the Marvel Universe, received less focus, being reduced largely to cameos. It was a flash in the pan, but would not be the last time the two companies would come together.
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Looking through some of the older posts in this thread, I believe I've spotted a contradiction.
When discussing DC in television, you mention that several characters from Superfriends were axed in this world, including Wendy and Marvin. Okay, fine.
But then when discussing DC in the 2000s, you mention that Wendy and Marvin are brought back despite apparently never existing...
When discussing DC in television, you mention that several characters from Superfriends were axed in this world, including Wendy and Marvin. Okay, fine.
But then when discussing DC in the 2000s, you mention that Wendy and Marvin are brought back despite apparently never existing...