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very good, what happen in the rest of the world ?

Well, France has just surrendered, the British are currently going through the Battle of Britain and the Italians and the British Commonwealth are going at it in North Africa. Unfortunately, the particulars of the North African campaign will not be discussed in this thread. I am thinking about splitting it off into it's own thread.
 
Well, France has just surrendered, the British are currently going through the Battle of Britain and the Italians and the British Commonwealth are going at it in North Africa. Unfortunately, the particulars of the North African campaign will not be discussed in this thread. I am thinking about splitting it off into it's own thread.
go do it them
 
10th August 1940 - Chung Hwa Hui releases 'homeland' proposal.
The leadership of Chung Hwa Hui has released their proposals for what the Dutch East Indies could look like after independence.

The proposal calls for every major ethnic group in the archipelago to have a ‘homeland’ to call their own where they are in the majority. Allegedly, the plan calls for the creation of two homelands for the Chinese community on the island of Sumatra.

The plan has led to widespread rioting in several cities across the colony, with the rioters claiming the Chinese residents have no right to a ‘homeland’. Both Chinese and Dutch soldiers have staunchly defended the Chinese residents, leading to the deaths of several rioter.

General Xue Yue has vowed to work cooperatively with all groups that call the islands home, but he bluntly said ‘I do not support the current proposal’.
 
15th August 940 - The Batavia Conference
The Batavia Conference: Peace in the Dutch East Indies?​


Built in 1619, Batavia was the crown jewel of the Dutch Empire in a similar fashion as Singapore was to the British or Indochina to the French. But in today’s world, with the removal of the legitimate Dutch government, the future of the colony has been thrown into question.

Specifically, the island’s future is split between the Indonesian Political Federation and the Chung Hwa Hui, two factions with differing goals for the island.

That is why General Xue Yue of the Imperial Chinese Army has announced this summit to discuss growing issues with the factions and work out a possible arrangement. Alongside him is Khouw Kim An, the Major of the Chinese in Batavia.

The first to come were the leadership of Chung Hwa Hui, which includes Hok Hoei Kan, who has been one of the staunchest and most outspoken members of the organization in terms of his desires for the archipelago.

The Indonesian Political Federation, made up of numerous different political factions but are today represented by the Great Indonesia Party, the Indonesian People’s Party and the Islamic Union Party, were the second delegation to arrive. The General had quite a surprise planned for them in the deployment of solely ‘inlander’ soldiers to make up the honour guard, instead of Dutrch or Chinese soldiers.

The summit took place in the Palace of the Dutch Governor General, Alidius Tjdarda von Starkenborgh Stachouwer, who represents the Dutch government in the archipelago. General Xue was most generous in only allowing a journalist from the Mandarin Observer to document the summit.

General Xue began by laying down the August and Blessed Government’s position on the matter. “The August and Blessed Government wants a just and fair peace to dictate the affairs of this archipelago. The only way we can have this peace is if we share this island”, He then thusly rejected Chung Hwa Hui’s ‘homeland’ proposal.

Mohammad Husni Thamrin began his delegation’s contributions by staunchly apologizing for the anti-Chinese riots that had pervaded the region, but he was quick to lay blame on Chung Hwa Hui for their ‘unfair’ proposal.

Amir Sjarfuddin, the leader of the Indonesian People’s Party, then said ‘Speak bluntly, General. What does the Chinese Empire want with our region? What are your terms for this ‘peace’?” But this was interrupted by Thamrin who asked the same question, but with less aggression.

“The August and Blessed Government’s only terms are that stability be the sole principle of our goal, which is a federation of the Indonesian people under the Dutch crown’,

Sijarfuddin muttered something our journalist could not hear, but Thamrin added “We cannot have stability while the Dutch government continues to throw our supporters in jail. We have as much right to political participation as this Chinese gentleman’.



Kaan then finally spoke. “We have the right to our homes and our families being secure and safe. The Dutch tolerate me because I am not trying to burn down their empire’.



Thamrin then reminded Kaan then he was once part of the Volksraad, but the Dutch government had ignored his people’s petitions for greater political rights and even for using the term ‘Indonesian’ in government documents. General Xue then saw the opportunity for perhaps the first agreement of the summit. He turned to the Dutch Governor General and asked if the Governor General was willing to support the reintroduction of several of Thamrin’s proposals into the Volksraad. The Governor General shrugged his shoulders and asked what would be the point. General Xue then spoke loudly to both sides of the aisle and said that this small agreement could be the stepping stone to larger agreements. The Dutch Governor General sneered at Thamrin, but shrugged his shoulders and said he would approve whatever the Volksraad did.



The issue then turned to that of political prisoners. Thamrin gave General Xue a list of political prisoners. Sukarno’s name was on top of the list. The Dutch Governor General then stood up and said ‘Absolutely not. Sukarno’s detention is non-negotiable’.



Thamrin then said ‘Sukarno is a comrade in the struggle for our independence. We cannot succeed without him’. General Xue then looked to the list again. He brought up Mohammad Hatta, whose name was second on the list. “He is also a national comrade” ,Thamrin simply said.



General Xue then read out the list of other, minor political prisoners. As he read out this list, the Major spoke up and reminded the General that compared to Sukarno, Hatta was a moderate and would be more amenable both parties’ sensibilities.



General Xue nodded and then said ‘I have studied the Dutch police’s records. A large number of these prisoners are Communists. I will not allow the growth of a Communist presence in any proximity to the Chinese mainland’.

SIjarfuddin then roared upwards and said “You cannot dictate to us what happens to our comrades!” and them stormed out. Thamrin then apologized on his behalf and asked if the Dutch government would be willing to release Mohammad Hatta.

The Governor General looked towards the General and then shrugged his shoulders. “As long as he doesn’t cause riots, I may take a look at pardoning him’.

The final topic of the summit was the Soejartdo Petition. With his earlier successes, Thamrin asked if now that Queen WIlhemina was in exile in London, if she’d feel more amenable to granting autonomy to the East Indies. The Governor General then reminded Thamrin that the petition was rejected as being in conflict with the Dutch Constitution and remarked on Thamrin’s insensitivity regarding the ‘plight of the Dutch people’.

General Xue then reminded both sides that the Dutch government was undertaking a Commission to Study the Changes to Administration and that a decision on Indonesian autonomy cannot be made until the commission had completed it’s work.

The summit was then dismissed, with the many factions going back to report on their victories and defeats. We thank the General for allowing us to see this potential moment in history and we hope for a peaceful outcome for all parties.

Representatives

Great Qing

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General Xue Yue

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Dutch Governor General Alidius Tjdarda von Starkenborgh Stachouwer


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Khow Kim An, Major of the Chinese

Indonesian Political Federation

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Mohammad Husni Thamrin

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20th August 1940 - Great Qing warns French Indochina
The Great Qing has sternly warned French Indochina about it's choices in regards to the war in Europe.

After the fall of French arrogance in June of this year, it's empire has been divided over loyalties to the colonial overlords in London or the colonial overlords in Paris. It is the position of the Great Qing that the French administration in Hanoi choose neither. "Instead, it would do the French and the locals well to dismantle the current oppressive structures in place and instead, begin working on a shared consciousness that will overcome the oppressive actions of the past",

The French administration in Hanoi has not responded.

The warning comes as the Imperial Chinese Army begins defensive maneuvres in Yunnan and Guangxi provinces in response to a possible French incursion.
 
Might as well ask, but how would the UN be organized ITTL as I doubt the NEP regime in China would be allowed on the UNSC Permanent Member list? I assume there would only be three or four Permanent Members here?
 
Might as well ask, but how would the UN be organized ITTL as I doubt the NEP regime in China would be allowed on the UNSC Permanent Member list? I assume there would only be three or four Permanent Members here?

This is admittedly a complicated thing to work out since without an Asian power on the Security Council, the UN will have limited influence over the Pacific, but at the same time, China and the West will have some level of rapprochement with the onset of the Cold War. The USSR would obviously object to an aggressively anti-Communist power having a seat on the Security Council.

The next several updates will deal with Indochina and I think China's conduct in that region and the West's response to it will play a role in China's role in world affairs.
 
Argentina allows port rights for German submarines - 1st September 1940
In an act of gross encouragement of the hostile powers of Europe, the Argentine government has agreed to allow German submarines the right to seek port in Argentine waters.

The agreement was signed between Argentine Foreign Minister Julio Argentino Pascual Rona and German foreign minister Joachim Von Ribbentrop in Buenos Aires and in secrecy. The agreement was only revealed after Ribbentrop arrived in Germany.

Both German and Argentine newspapers are playing down the implications of the agreement, but the US government has condemned the agreement as a violation of the Monroe Doctrine.

For our Navy and our sea merchants, the implications are clear and simple. The Kriegsmarine will have the capability to increase war operations against us, despite our neutrality.

The fact that Germany is attempting to develop ties with countries outside of Europe leads to much speculation as to the calibre of their allies on the European continent. Why waste time with a country in South America when you have an ally in, for example, the French State that could feasibly increase the Reich's chances of winning the war? Perhaps the French State is not worthy of notice, even by the Germans. [1]


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German foreign minister Joachim von Ribbentrop

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Argentine Foreign Minister Julio Argentino Pascual Roca.


[1] In this timeline, there is no equivalent of the Tripartite Pact. Not only since the negotiations for the Tripartite Pact in OTL started with Japan in 1936, but because I could not find a plausible replacement for Japan in the Axis Powers. Vichy France only existed because the Germans couldn't afford the troops to occupy all of France and they needed an authority to control the French colonies and I didn't feel it appropriate to pick a random German ally to fill the place without it having some impact on China.
 
I assume the preferred term for the Axis ITTL would be the "Pact of Steel"? Maybe we could have the equivalent to lesser Axis members joining the Tripartite Pact be them joining the Pact of Steel?
 
I assume the preferred term for the Axis ITTL would be the "Pact of Steel"? Maybe we could have the equivalent to lesser Axis members joining the Tripartite Pact be them joining the Pact of Steel?

Would Hitler really be interested in seeking a formal alliance with nations he would've considered Germany's lessers? He sought an alliance with Japan because he felt Japan was destined to be the ruling power in Asia (despite his own mixed feelings in regards to Asians).
 
Casus Belli (September 1st to September 20th)
September 1st, 1940

"Declassified reports from the Jiangwei point to the existence of a large scale Communist movement in Indochina that is being ignored by the French. This movement, just like the parasites from the French Commune, was founded in the early 1920s at the behest of the Communist International. Unlike the Communue Parasites, this 'Youth League', as it calls itself, is strictly aimed at inflaming the tensions of Indochinese youth. This movement was founded in Paris and is being controlled directly by the French Communist Party, though it obviously seeks guidance and support from the Soviet junta in Moscow",

September 5th 1940

A senior member of the Pictorial Department of the Board of Propaganda has been fined and is set to be publicly lashed for choosing to include pictures of Indochinese women having their throats slit by French soldiers in a children's magazine. "This content should only be seen by adults. Children seeing this content generates bad karma which will affect their lives, both here and after", a statement from the Board of Propaganda read".

September 10th 1940

Vietnamese children poured their hearts out to members of the Scouts of China in a joint camp somewhere in Mongolia. The children sang about the tragic loss of their homeland to foreign invaders and thanked the Chinese people for their hospitality. Eyewitnesses said that many of the Scouts were brought to tears by the children's stories of loss and ther hopes for a free Vietnamese nation.

September 15th 1940
There is much speculation that the Jiangwei and Dutch police are undertaking investigations of the Indonesia People's Party. After the Batavia Conference, it was hoped that the Party would work with the Great Qing to facilitate a peaceful future for the Indonesian people, but it would seem that the Party's leadership has resumed contact with their exiled leader and Moscow puppet Munawar Musso. Given that the Party is completely controlled by Marxists, this accused treachery is of no surprise.

September 17th 1940

The liberation of Indochina from French colonial rule is a long term goal of the Great Qing, though it remains to be seen if the French must be forced out or they will eventually leave due to the degradation of their empire. In any event, an alternative to their oppressive rule must be discovered. It is well known that Indochina is crawling with Communists. They cannot be allowed to establish themselves in Hanoi as the next regime. But how should the people of the region defend themselves against this parasitic insurrection?

There are three steps to the removal of Communism from Indochina.

1. Burn them out - Communism is an unnatural pestilence that must be cut out of the region. No mercy must be shown to the so-called 'hardcore believers', those who refuse to give up Communism. This part of the struggle is the most challenging to the soul because Communism infects family members with it's nonsense. Whatever regime the Indochinese people establish must take into accounts the guises that Communists often take and crush them.

2. Offer an alternative - Dangerous ideologies like Communism only succeed when there is no alternative. The National Enlightenment Party has provided the Chinese people with economic freedom as opposed to state-controlled dictates, universal education with morality and spirit at the centre as opposed to adherence to state dogma and it has highlighted the importance of strength of will and character over strength of faith in a leader as we are seeing in the Stalinist regime. The Indochinese alternative must have the whole people's support or there will be no point to the eradication of Communism.

3. Strengthen ties to the wider Asian continent - The Indochinese people are not alone in their struggle for national freedom free from foreign influence. The Great Qing, Korea and even Japan have suffered humiliation after humiliation at the hands of outsiders. We must come together like a band of sticks. We are unbreakable if we stand together.

September 20th 1940

A terrorist attack in Yunnan has killed many people. Eyewitnesses report that a bomb left in a crowded market exploded. According to the Provincial Government, there are at least twenty people dead, including children. The incident took place in an area not far from the Indochinese border. The French administration in Hanoi has refused to explain themselves to the August and Blessed Government. As such, it has been decided that an anti-terrorist operation must take place to uproot the perpetrators of this barbarous act, which are no doubt the Communist Youth League.
 
Smiting a Unworthy Empire (September 21st- September 26th)
September 21

Planes of the Imperial Chinese Air Force have taken off from airbases in Yunnan and have flown unopposed into the territory of the French administration in Indochina. Instead of dropping bombs, the Air Force dropped several types of leaflets written in Vietnamese, French, German and other languages.

The first leaflet was to the French Foreign Legion troops stationed in Tonkin and other important areas.

Legionnaires! The Great Qing is coming to do battle with your oppressors and liberate Indochina! Consider your situation! Do you really want to die on behalf of your overlords? If you surrender to the Imperial Chinese Army, you will be treated humanely in line with our faith! No one wants unneccessary bloodshed!

The second leaflet was for the French officers in Hanoi

Sun Tzu once said 'If you know your enemy as you know yourself, you will win a thousand battles'. Our people are of great familiarity with themselves and their enemies! We know that the French empire is dying! Spare yourself the humiliation of protecting a dying empire and surrender peacefully. Safe passage to India is guaranteed!

The last one is for the Vietnamese people as well as the other peoples of the region

From 1863 - 1893, the French Empire killed and carved it's way across this ancient land and subsumed it into it's degenerate empire. They could not be bothered ruling over their territories themselves, so they appointed puppet emperors who knelt in the presence of their overlords. While the French overlords and their puppets prospered, they oppressed the true natives of this land. They showed no traits indicative of 'liberty, fraternity and equality' to the Laotians, the Cambodians or the Vietnamese.

I am ashamed to say that I am the son of one of those puppet emperors, Khal Dinh. His name is as false as his claim to the ancient throne. My name is Curong De and I utterly denounce the collaborationist attitudes shown by my father. He freely rules over a territory that the French have the gall to call Anman or the 'Pacified South'.

I declare the throne of Anman to be null and void. Instead, there will be a new throne, a throne for the rulers of a united Vietnamese nation. I am Emperor Curong De of the Blessed Kingdom of Vietnam which from this day forward, shall be a sovereign, independent nation free of outside influences, especially degenerate European influences. I call upon the people to show the same courage as the heroes of the Cun Vuong movement. They are our forebears and we shall honor their sacrifices with the overthrow of our enemies!

September 21st

Vietnamese soldiers crossed the border into Indochina today, supported by Chinese artillery. They quickly took over the troublesome border regions and advanced inwards into Tonkin where they engaged the French Foreign Legion, including units consisting mostly of Austrians and Germans. Under the pressure of the artillery, the Foreign Legion withdrew and Vietnamese soldiers approached Hanoi. Rather than fight a pointless battle in the streets of their colonial outpost, the French colonial administration quickly capitulated and signed an armistice. Under the terms of the armistice, all French soldiers in Indochina were to be disarmed and expelled from the colony along with their officers. Vietnamese collaborators, including the puppet Emperor, were to be handed over to the government of the Blessed Kingdom of Vietnam.

September 23rd

As Vietnamese soldiers continue to sweep downwards into their country and clear away what little amateurish French resistance there is, Emperor Curong De officially entered Hanoi. He and his people were overjoyed to see a parade of Vietnamese soldiers carrying discarded French flags and other regalia to toss them into a pile to be burned. After this was done, the Emperor's coronation ceremony took place in the Imperial Citadel in Hue. There used to be one in Hanoi, but it was destroyed by the French.
After he was crowned, the Emperor announced that the new Blessed Kingdom of Vietnam would be a constitutional monarchy, with Phan Boi Chau as Prime Minister.

September 24th

Military administrations were formally established in the former French Protectorates of Laos and Cambodia, respectively. Unlike Vietnam, these two regions have not had a developed independence movement and as such, the Imperial Chinese Army must assume responsibility for governance until native governments can be established.

September 25th

The August and Blessed Government has refused to explicity confirm rumours that the Prime Minister of China has had a personal audience with the American ambassador to China, Nelson T Johnson. The Chinese Embassy in Washington has reported a flurry of discussions among American politicians about our liberation of Indochina and the US President's response to it. We have nothing to fear for judging by his decisions in relation to American policy, Mr. Roosevelt is an anti-imperialist and has significantly rolled back American interference in his region. Perhaps he supports our goals of freeing the peoples of Asia?
 
So the Vietnam War has been averted for this TL? Irony is that the Vietnamese once again received help from their 2000-year old enemy, the Chinese. Even it is a different version of China.
 
So the Vietnam War has been averted for this TL? Irony is that the Vietnamese once again received help from their 2000-year old enemy, the Chinese. Even it is a different version of China.
More like this WAS the Vietnam War, or more accurately, War for Vietnam's Liberation.

Before 1910, Vietnamese was written in Chinese, much like Japanese and pre-Japan rule Korea. That coupled with "in our faith" written in the pamphlet means that the August and Blessed Government is saying to the Vietnamese they can choose between ruled by fellow Buddhists who look somewhat Vietnamese, writes the same way as Vietnamese a generation prior; or by French and their Catholic puppets who speaks Vietnamese but doesn't have much in common with the people (See: Ngo Ding Diem).
 
Change is in the Wind (October 1st - October 10th)
@Gillan1220

Yes. There will be the occasional skirmishes with pro-Communist guerillas every now and again, but Indochina will be spared the pointless carnage it saw from the 1940s-1970s.

@KderNacht

That pamphlet was aimed at the French Foreign Legion and essentially promised them humane treatment if they surrendered.

Onto the next update...

October 1st

Siam, Vietnam and the British administration of Burma have come to an agreement as to the border arrangements of the new reality in South-east Asia. Under guarantee of imminent Chinese intervention, Siam has agreed to rescind all territorial claims on the former French Indochina while Vietnam has promised to stem the refugees that are following the French withdrawal. The British Governor of Burma, Archibald Cochrane, had allegedly complained that no one had informed Rangoon of changes to the status quo.

October 3rd

The Report by the Commission to Study Changes to Administration has been released at a Congress of Indonesian Peoples that had been called by the Indonesian Political Federation

Among other things, the Report calls for

- More bilingual education of Indonesian children in both their language and the Dutch language

- Native Indonesian representation in the Volksraad should be increased

- The Indonesian people should have a advisory body alongside the Volksraad to assist in government policy making.

- The word 'Indonesian' shall be adopted by the Dutch government instead of the term 'inlander'.

The proposals were welcomed with applause by the large number of attendees with Mohammad Hatta and the Governor-General, Tjarda von Starkenborgh Stachouwer, raising their hands in celebration.


October 5th

The Indonesian People's Party has been outlawed.

The Dutch administration has announced the outlawing of the Party's subversive activities and the imminent arrest of the Party leadership.

Amir Sjarfuddin has already been found dead. He appears to have committed suicide by hanging

The Jiangwei and the Imperial Chinese Army have already vowed their cooperation in crushing this tentacle of the Communist International

October 8th

A German U-Boat has cruelly sunk a Dutch freighter before being chased off by a Dutch ship.

Everyone on the freighter survived with the captain attributing the rescue to his Indonesian first officer, praising his 'disregard for danger, his commitment to the values of the sea and of course, his loyalty to his country'. The same praise was delivered upon other Indonesian members of his crew.

The Indonesian, whose name is simply Agung, will be rewarded with the Knight of the Lion of the Netherlands, a civilian honor given to those who have contributed greatly to Dutch society. HIs compatriots will be rewarded in the same manner.

October 10th

A strange debacle has emerged in the newly independent Vietnam.

Vietnamese authorities are unsure if the religion known as Caodaoism should be permitted alongside Buddhism.

Caodaoism is unlike any other religion in the region, with the religion adhering to belief in a single God, but with the deity's prophets being Western figures of high stature such as Jesus Christ, Victor Hugo and Federick Law Olmstead. The religion incorporates practices from Buddhism and Taoism. Adherents of Caodaism have taken part in the struggle for Vietnamese independence from French oppression and as such, Vietnamese proponents say the faith should be permitted.

The newly emerging conservative newspapers have condemned the faith as 'abject heresy' that should be outlawed.

The August and Blessed Government has already announced it will not dictate to the new Vietnamese government what it should and should not outlaw.
 
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