Hadrian's Consolidation - reboot

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Hecatee said:
Thanks ! Thing is, the 350 some pages of the masterfile would probably require a lot of editing to become an eBook, I don't want to offer a sub-par quality to my readers especially if they pay for it :(
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Yes, but e-books also tend to take time... Low burn project? Simply having it lying around, editing it, if one thinks it might be popular enough use a professional (completely your decision, only ideas I am throwing around), and add what you think would need to be added to make it good. Honestly, compared to what gets on KU sometimes, this is already really good... Not good enough that I would outright pay for it, but something I would download from KU... The bar for that is in my opinion relatively low, grammar understandable, and generally no great incosistencies... And, if it gets enough resonance, you could always decide later to pay an editor with the winnings... (Not entirely sure about the contract, but that is what you would need to look into...)

So in the end, monetizing your work is certainly possible without to much of a hassle, but the question is if you want to go that way (KU forbids that you can get it from anywhere else, etc...)

KU = Kindle Unlimited, Amazon
 

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Congratulations on completing a great timeline @Hecatee. It is without a doubt the greatest Roman TL on the site and a deserved winner of Turtledove award.
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First I'd like to second the sentiment of the above post -this timeline is a real achievement. Well done!

As to your ideas about a successor timeline:

Hecatee said:
Good question ! In fact I just got a second short story published (availlable digitally in French at https://www.7switch.com/fr/ebook/9782364754485/anthologie-arts-et-fantastique ) about a young roman slave helped by the Gods in the making of a mosaic, which comes after my first published short story which was an uchrony about Pliny surviving the Vesuvius eruption (paper only, https://www.amazon.fr/Dimension-Uchronie-2-Bertrand-Campeis/dp/1612278701/ ). I'm thinking of trying to get one or two novels published (one is a stranded in time story about an archeologist, an historian, an anthropologist and a nurse stuck in Alesia at the time of Nero, the other is a more contemporary novel about a man's evolution in our strange world...).
As for this message board, I might try to reboot another of my old timelines :

- I asked what would happen if Russia abided by Tilsit and Napoleon went all the way against the Ottomans
- I wondered what a better defense of Eben Emael in the early days of WW2 could do to the German invasion
- What if the Spanish colonization of South America followed a Roman patterns thanks to an early discovery of an important roman text in Spain ?
- What if Mussolini and Japan collaborate early on thanks to Balbo's talks with an Italian orientalist and call upon the competences of PVilfredo Pareto ?
- A powerful hellenistic Nabatean state around the period of the Maccabees' war
- A different space history thanks to Asimov and Clarke and Heinlein working together to quickstart space research in the West
- A new Spartan state thanks to an early illiryan invasion of Macedonia during Antigonos III's war against Kleomenes, the later using the opportunity to lock down the Peloponesus
- Chiang prepares from 1934 on to fight against Japan

What do you think of those ideas ?
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May I suggest a timeline that picks up where this leaves off? There would be more of a sense of continuity. Like I'm reading a book on world history, but focused on different regions of the world.
 
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Hecatee said:
Good question ! In fact I just got a second short story published (availlable digitally in French at https://www.7switch.com/fr/ebook/9782364754485/anthologie-arts-et-fantastique ) about a young roman slave helped by the Gods in the making of a mosaic, which comes after my first published short story which was an uchrony about Pliny surviving the Vesuvius eruption (paper only, https://www.amazon.fr/Dimension-Uchronie-2-Bertrand-Campeis/dp/1612278701/ ). I'm thinking of trying to get one or two novels published (one is a stranded in time story about an archeologist, an historian, an anthropologist and a nurse stuck in Alesia at the time of Nero, the other is a more contemporary novel about a man's evolution in our strange world...).
As for this message board, I might try to reboot another of my old timelines :

- I asked what would happen if Russia abided by Tilsit and Napoleon went all the way against the Ottomans
- I wondered what a better defense of Eben Emael in the early days of WW2 could do to the German invasion
- What if the Spanish colonization of South America followed a Roman patterns thanks to an early discovery of an important roman text in Spain ?
- What if Mussolini and Japan collaborate early on thanks to Balbo's talks with an Italian orientalist and call upon the competences of PVilfredo Pareto ?
- A powerful hellenistic Nabatean state around the period of the Maccabees' war
- A different space history thanks to Asimov and Clarke and Heinlein working together to quickstart space research in the West
- A new Spartan state thanks to an early illiryan invasion of Macedonia during Antigonos III's war against Kleomenes, the later using the opportunity to lock down the Peloponesus
- Chiang prepares from 1934 on to fight against Japan

What do you think of those ideas ?
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PLEASE do the RUSSIAN OTTOMAN ALLIANCE !!
I have been wanted to see this happen for a very long time. The Third Rome must capture Tsargrad!

However, didn't the Spanish empire collapse, due to it's immigration of scattered Millitary colonies, with a rapidly dying population base? From what I recall, the Roman Empire struggled against a Nomadic/No population based society. Is that not what happened to the northern frontier of the Spanish empire?

I have made it my mission to read your ENTIRE timeline, start to finish, but am finding it hard to trawl through the large amounts of comments. The comments are insightful, but are hard to go through, as your current timeline is over 100 pages long. Is there an easy way to access all of your relevant posts?
 
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Iron_Lord said:
PLEASE do the RUSSIAN OTTOMAN ALLIANCE !!
I have been wanted to see this happen for a very long time. The Third Rome must capture Tsargrad!

However, didn't the Spanish empire collapse, due to it's immigration of scattered Millitary colonies, with a rapidly dying population base? From what I recall, the Roman Empire struggled against a Nomadic/No population based society. Is that not what happened to the northern frontier of the Spanish empire?

I have made it my mission to read your ENTIRE timeline, start to finish, but am finding it hard to trawl through the large amounts of comments. The comments are insightful, but are hard to go through, as your current timeline is over 100 pages long. Is there an easy way to access all of your relevant posts?
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The Russian story is not about a Russian/Ottoman alliance, it's about the Russians keeping into the Tilsit agreement and letting Napoleon go to war against the Ottoman ;)

About the Spanish Empire, there were many reasons for the collapse I think (I'm no specialist of the period) but generally I would say that the policies against the native (which encouraged quite a number of rarely talked about revolts), the lack of investment in the colonies and the way the gold and silver of the new world were used did a lot to help the collapse. Better management might well have led to a stronger Spain (and later stronger and more stable latin america nations).

About the timeline, if you use the buttons to follow the threadmarks you'll skip over the comments and only read the "official" content of the timeline :)
 
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Hecatee said:
The Russian story is not about a Russian/Ottoman alliance, it's about the Russians keeping into the Tilsit agreement and letting Napoleon go to war against the Ottoman ;)

About the Spanish Empire, there were many reasons for the collapse I think (I'm no specialist of the period) but generally I would say that the policies against the native (which encouraged quite a number of rarely talked about revolts), the lack of investment in the colonies and the way the gold and silver of the new world were used did a lot to help the collapse. Better management might well have led to a stronger Spain (and later stronger and more stable latin america nations).

About the timeline, if you use the buttons to follow the threadmarks you'll skip over the comments and only read the "official" content of the timeline :)
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The Russian Story is an interesting concept. But I find is difficult to believe that Alexander the I would really just let napoleon take all the glory... Bah, it's alternate history, what am I saying? :)

As for Spain, I agree. The management was a *little* bit bad. I also believe that perhaps their constant desire for looting villages for gold wasn't exactly a good move. I have also found that the Spanish refused to 'Proxy' native American tribes, like the French and English. They refused to supply firearms and such to 'Friendly' tribes. I also think perhaps the Spanish wasted the whole 'California' thing. Spanish Gold Rush, anyone?

One major thing you might consider is natural obstacles that prevented the Spanish from effectively defending their borders. Names the vast deserts that provide the modern day border between the Latin American World from the 'Developed' World.
 
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Hello everyone,

Given both public and private messages on the topic, I've created a Patreon page for those who wish to participate. There is no obligation, far from it, and all of the timelines I write will still be published on alternatehistory.com but my goal is to publish on Patreon one or two days in advance alongside with some additionnal content on the research behind the work (reference books I used, etc.) and my trips to ancient ruins (coming next, in about a month : roman remains of Luxembourg, Trier, and the new Pompei exhibit in Paris if they allow pictures). Another longer term goal is to publish an Amazon reworked version of Hadrian's Consolidation for which I need to pay for the services of a professional editor, which I hope be financed at least in part by my Patreons.


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Oh and I was forgetting the most important, the link : https://www.patreon.com/bryaxishecatee
 
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