A New Beginning - Our 1992 Russian Federation
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So marijuana is getting legal , we are going to increase our defence budget and le pen wins , interesting time are coming for our country.
B. Like Whiteshore, to make the timeline different and I honestly wanted to see France be the one to pull a Brexit
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Also I missed some notifications (or slept on them) so what is the situation in Southern Ukraine/ Novorussia my friend (new map?
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it will happen in 2013/2015 my friend, now we are in 2010.B
Also I missed some notifications (or slept on them) so what is the situation in Southern Ukraine/ Novorussia my friend (new map?
Good to know, looking forward to that to not miss any vote whose outcome might interest me for the sake of TTL. ^^
Gaúcho Maldito
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B) Le Pen in Paris will cripple the EU if she can be effective.
The UK is the American Empire lapdog, it won't ever betray the US. But France, on the other hand, still has the guts to act indepently. It can even be used against NATO.
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Gaúcho Maldito
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If Le Pen wins in 2017, should we think about welcoming France in the BRICS to fuck up with the US and the UK? @panpiotr
Before people start to talk about France acting as a trojan horse inside the organization, I would argue that we already have trojan horses in India and even in Brazil. And if France can bring western interests inside the BRICS agenda, this can act both ways. One thing is for certain, the United States and company are trying to maintain a World Hegemony and prop up a system, while we are merely trying to subvert it. We thrive much more in chaos, and our multipolar arrengement is much less jealous about the loyalties of it's participants, a thing NATO and the EU can't deal too well.
Last but not least, BRICS is all about prestige, it's an organization which has less meat in the bones than what it's popularity would suggest, so by letting France in we are sacrificing much less than the West, which would now have a crypto-Eurasian power deep inside the EU and NATO, organizations which have much more consequential mechanisms to defend.
This could well be a masterstroke. The most significant aspect of the BRICS is the idea that it will act as a catalyst to bring about a post-dollar era, not in the sense that the dollar will collapse, but that it will stop being the only reserve currency, and I can see France seeing this as a net positive under a more continental and nationalistic leadership.
Before people start to talk about France acting as a trojan horse inside the organization, I would argue that we already have trojan horses in India and even in Brazil. And if France can bring western interests inside the BRICS agenda, this can act both ways. One thing is for certain, the United States and company are trying to maintain a World Hegemony and prop up a system, while we are merely trying to subvert it. We thrive much more in chaos, and our multipolar arrengement is much less jealous about the loyalties of it's participants, a thing NATO and the EU can't deal too well.
Last but not least, BRICS is all about prestige, it's an organization which has less meat in the bones than what it's popularity would suggest, so by letting France in we are sacrificing much less than the West, which would now have a crypto-Eurasian power deep inside the EU and NATO, organizations which have much more consequential mechanisms to defend.
This could well be a masterstroke. The most significant aspect of the BRICS is the idea that it will act as a catalyst to bring about a post-dollar era, not in the sense that the dollar will collapse, but that it will stop being the only reserve currency, and I can see France seeing this as a net positive under a more continental and nationalistic leadership.
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Problem is do we want to strengthen the position of Troyan horses? I wouldn't say that we thrive on Chaos as much as on the balance of power and if French entry into the BRICS ends up making organization into the paper Tiger, one that's unable to lead the transition to multipolar world and serve as viable platform for rising powers then we will basically lose out, not only that but this will hurt our credibilty with other rising powers.
In case of India, while it has its own interests and conflicts it's important to note that it's independent power able to make independent decisions, France on other hand while quite autonomous is lot more tied to the West and the EU economically.
With India we actually can balance China and turn BRICS towards productive purpose's, but with power that's so bound to the Western dominated system that will be a lot harder as now we will also need to take interests of collective West into the account and that's exactly position France will take if it joins the BRICS, it will try to position itself as a Western and European voice within the organization, with or without Le Pen.
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