That he did and naples deserves MUCH better! is the best state of italy before unification
The Prince of the Roses - A Tudor TL
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I know you do. But on the plus side, no Vasas on the throne of Sweden. And as for Norway, I haven't made up my mind yet.
unfortunately Naples is only the main emblem to demonstrate the Italian weakness from the military point of view of the time, where the largest regional state was easily defeated in 2/3 battles ( which so shocked the rest of Italy, from dont seek a clash with the French troops, in fact Fornovo more than a victory ( as it is represented in national historiography ) was a draw which all in all favored the French, given that it further demonstrated how militarily weak and politically divided the peninsula was ( making the possible conquest even easier, after all, a single main Italian city was worth as much as the entire kingdom of France from an economic point of view, which is why controlling it was tempting for many ) so now that France suddenly finds itself with one less important adversary with the disappearance of the imperial Habsburgs ( England doesn't count, it didn't represent a serious threat to France, it was more of a nuisance ) it will be easier for them to obtain the hegemony in Italy ( even more so if they can buy the Papacy, Clemente is aiming to govern Florence, so if Paris helps him, he would be more than willing to give the rest of the country to the French ) so let's get ready for a re-edition of the Carolingian Empire in Valois style, with France, Italy and parts of Burgundy and the Rhineland under their control
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I think we shall see a much more french dominated Italy in this timeline, given that I (somewhat shortsighted perhaps? Whatever!) nuked the Austrian Hapsburg.
That's a consolation. And Hope christian lives and has even a single kingdom.
I’m no fan of the Stures either! And honestly, I would rather have Denmark-Norway united under the Frederickan Oldenburgs than see it split and have Christian rule one of the realms. The twin realms must be forever undivided 🥲I know you do. But on the plus side, no Vasas on the throne of Sweden. And as for Norway, I haven't made up my mind yet.
if for this reason there are also my Sardinia ( which personally beats Sicily 2 to 0, for beauty 😜 ) and Corsica ( which technically is part of the Sardinian Corsican kingdom created by Boniface VIII in 1298 ) then it wouldn't be bad if Ferdinand decides to intervene in "defense" of the island to take it away from France, uniting the two islands in a single kingdom 😇
He will have one kingdom. I am not saying what kingdom it will be however!
Yes, I am aware of your love for Sicily.
I am interested in the Stures, so I am happy to write them. Christina Gyllenstierna is underrated! And no telling if Denmark-Norway will stay joined together.
Catfight! And that is food for thought! Thank you!
so don't worry, sometimes it happens, I just believe that if things in the East go like Otl, perhaps we will end up with a strong Catholic dynasty that holds Bohemia + Hungary + Austria and Bavaria ( that's when the fun ends for France, perhaps the future HRE Emperors ask Rome to be able to secularize Salzburg, to make it their capital, given that it would be halfway between Munich and Vienna ) given that it would have a state more than capable of fighting on equal terms with her ( Suleyman and Protestants permitting ) for the control of imperial Italy
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That would be a cool thing indeed.
The Imperial capital of Saltzburg sounds dope as heck. *goes off to plotting*
I can't let you down completely. Where would I be without you, my most steadfast companion? Lost in misfortune, I shall fear!
I understand there's a method to your writting! You sall always have my support!
*looks at my planned endings for my Burgundian tl*
oh dear
*looks back to you*
are you absolutely sure about that last sentence?